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Re: RunInUAE r8 beta 6 (JIT) please test!
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@LiveForIt

The versjon i have of E UAE on my github is the result of a failed port to PUAE and a dump of what I had at the time, before Debian PPC ended. It is basically all I could identify as an update over the original code. To complicate things, I spotted a case where in p96 where I forgot to remove the old code, result in one generated and one static p96 whatever address, I fixed this in the patch now in E UAE on SourceForge under the "tickets" section but don't think I fixed it for my github version.

The result anyway, is about 6 MIPS faster than the original, and some wayes towards PUAE 2.8. I came as far as managing to port the problem PUAE has with a malloc gone wrong for PPC to E UAE, I ported the memory code basically.. Since I would rather lay down and bury myself using a spoon rather than give up I started testing code bit by bit, the stubbornness I inhabit resulted in what I have. I submitted the patch and hope it will make its way to an official release, all the while I whisper " 6 million instructions per second". The credits must go to the contributors to PUAE, I'm just stubborn.

The Amiga version should use a GL window and other stuff PUAE just does. I have not myself tested this version but remember that the bits of OS code weren't _that_ effected.


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Re: AmigaOS and web browsing in 2013
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@ssolie

I would love to contribute, sadly i dont have an os4 machine, so it would be guesswork, if in the future that changes though i will drop you a mail. My point being though if the foundations for it to run on os4 could be open sourced and made into a community project we would have loads more resources devoted to solving problems

@Antique
True that, some features had to be added to OS4 for it to work i seem to remember, so porting to other amiga like platforms around here would likely require someone relatively devoted. But it would get the ball rolling.

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Re: AmigaOS and web browsing in 2013
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Why isnt the TimberWolf sources available ? Surely if it were a community project it would stand a lot better chance of actually getting anywhere rather then the current situation where its a spare time project? Look at the activity around Dopus5 for instance. It would probably not be that difficult to merge it up with the Tenfourfox effort?

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Re: Video showing Sam440/OS4/Linux
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@gerograph

Huh, Looked trough the linux boot sequence, and its loading no ide drivers, only sata, two eth cards ( eth plug 0 and 1 on the sam440 )

And the startup is pretty much identical to yours ;) Take the m41t80 for instance.
http://www.cruxppc.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=224

So i guess its just the a1 slb ported to the sam.

*leaves in a puff of stupid troll begone* (not directed at gerograph)

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Re: An open discussion on where we go from here
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@magic

Correct ;D
Im happy enough with my A1200 and blizzard 1260, for now anyway. I wouldnt mind a quad core power station to and os4 tho


Edited by mike on 2009/7/4 19:32:21
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Re: An open discussion on where we go from here
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oh i forgot to mention kernel calls.


Anyhow, if were supposed to start somewhere and become somewhat compatible, first things first, figure out whats compatible and whats not, sure my idea about creating a flow-chart/chart/ANYTHING of some sort of documentation sounds good, but who is actually willing to step up and help with this? ( the interested parties, now who are they? )

Taking 3.x as a common base wont really work, there are incompatibilities in the general way stuff is programmed from 3.x to 4.x to Mos.x etc, so everyone will have to give somewhere.

Now, we have few options, i only talk for the 68k part, as thats the only "part" im remotely familiar with. Either we wait for the Aros 68k port and the 68k port and pray everything will alright, sure it wont be as speedy as the finely tuned asa the asm optimized for amigas 3.1 were used to, but for future projects like the natami it would work. Or start gobbing 3.x with aros libs, figure out where 3.x is in relation to aros, fix whats missing and call it a day. Or.... *suggestion goes here*

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Re: An open discussion on where we go from here
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@DaveP

What would be practical, and just to start somewhere, would be some sort overview comparison of what is incompatible and compatible across platforms. A MOS/OS4 compatible program guide if you will,.Choosing those two first as those are the two "main" players, but i believe AROS is up to scratch as well. So a guide describing how different library functions/calls are handled, whats there and whats not there across the platforms.

Next a port of Zune to OS3/Os4/MOS for further compatibility.

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Re: Machine stuck at bootpic? Set the date!
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@Elwood

Interesting, something along the lines of the unix 2038 time problem i suppose? what happens when you set this date in os4? i think os3 can go on until 2042 or so but i dont think we'd see it stop doing time critical operations,, just reset to 1900 or so

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Re: An open discussion on where we go from here
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@Rigo

I agree, i dont know if theres much difference in the bsdsocket from os3 to aos4/mos tho btw.

The best thing as far as 68k goes, i think would be the port of Aros ( Which is on its way last i heard, moving slowly ), this would however likely be too slow in many cases. But writing in missing functions would be heaps easier and not requiring everyone to shit 68k ASM for breakfast. Thats the only way i can think of to keep the 68k up to scratch.

Speed will probably not matter much with the projects on the horizon. The Natami and http://www.inertial.biz/index.php?title=FireMig should be very capable.

As far as anyone stepping to the plate, co-operation would be the key here, some interested skilled people from each respective parts of the woods and a CVS/SVN spitting ideas?

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Re: An open discussion on where we go from here
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@DaveP

AmigaOS 3,x is the common denominator yes. Well screw aos4 mosX and aros then, just stick to 3.x programing and screw mui and do it all in intuition, or get and base them all on zune. bam, Were mostly compatible. Some backporting from aros, supporting the functions missing in our 3.x libraries making them roughly compatible with Aos4 mosX etc. would also be a possibility. Afa is doing some of this, right?

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Re: An open discussion on where we go from here
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@tonyw

I will just have to point out that OSX use and contribute to open source stuff, but of course retain ownership trough either LGPL or BSD license on certain stuff ( I believe )



This rock can be flipped both ways, no open source projects would ever base their interface around proprietorial software.

The discussion about going VM is really interesting, but then you might as well add ppc emulation to uae and be done with it. I doubt OS4 would much appreciate running in a VM on a small hand-held for instance, on a totally different platform, assuming it keeps binary compatibility with ppc/68k somehow it would/could be slow.

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Re: Amiga OS 4.1 dealers
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@orgin

0s4.1 dealers great,

Moderator Edit

Rest of post removed the discussion is about where to buy OS4.1 everything else was off topic.


Edited by Jurassicc on 2008/8/9 20:41:52
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Re: Another CSPPC topic..
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I really hope they do find them, theres a few hundred euros and a quite broken cppc almost packed and ready for a sunny vacation in italy right under my table

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Re: Another CSPPC topic..
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Some say they will be repairing cpps boards in the near future, but again this is only the ppc chip, so its somewhat of a longshot quickly followed by a few hundred euros.

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Re: Amiga Guru Book petition
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182 signatures.

This does somewhat seem to be linked to principles. He seems to have been stabbed in the back but i cant see why he wouldnt at this point go ahead with the printing. Alternatively teach us german


Edited by mike on 2008/5/20 16:25:33
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Re: IBrowse Development ?
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@Raziel

Well thats one obstacle down the drain. Is there anyone currently working on a port then?

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Mappign gfx memory
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Hi,

I heard somewhere that it should be possible to use the gfx memory as memory... But how? I've googled a bit but i havent found anything.

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Re: IBrowse Development ?
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How about trying to use that gnu java thing?
Wasnt sun to open source java?

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Re: Whdload for OS4 on P5-cards?
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@Rogue

Seriously, it's there, it sould be addressable, with some clever tricky programing it should be accesable... theres no way an os running on a 68k ppc'ed system can ignore the fact that there is a 680xx present

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Re: Has the Fat lady Sang for you?
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@Hans

I agree.

It's about the future if AmigaOS, and probably of either of the companies, if they arent well incurred.

Will it go the the imbecile's of whom's definition of an OS includes notepad, or the developers that put their blood swear and tears into it.

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