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Driver for Norway Ethernet card ?
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Hi all,

A few days ago I sent an e-mail to E3B enquiring if
a driver was being developed for thier Norway Ethenet
card, ( this plugs into the Highway USB card ).

The reason I enquired is, I have an A4000 with one fitted
and No Internet access via OS4 ( the 68k driver crashes
OS4 hard ).

Anyway, I recieved a reply from Micheal Boehmer on behalf
of E3B, he stated....

Quote:

From our side, no.
We would provide all documentation necessary for this task to volunteers.
Thanks for using our products!

--
MfG Michael Boehmer
Fa. E3B

End Quote:

So I was wondering; are any Devs/Developers up to the task?
My programming skills are not advanced enough to write drivers etc

Discuss ?

Wol...

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Re: Picasso Bug ??
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@ Rouge


I bump this for your interest......or not



Wol..

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Re: Playing YouTube videos on 68k
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@Jack


Eh!


Well I can assure you my 50Mhz 060 in my A4000
can play 3 instances of Songplayer1.53 at the same time
ALL at full quality , no problems.



1 thro Paula 14bit 128k 22000 khz

1 thro Prelude 16bit 128k 22000 Khz

1 thro Toccata 16bit 128k 22000 Khz


I tried this just for a laugh, it worked fine.


Checking CPU load with Songplayer 1.53 using Paula
14bit++ shows only 25% usage (mp3 128k Stereo 22000Khz).

Playing mp2 190K 22000Khz stereo shows only 21% load.


Wol..


PS: Use Songplayer 1.53, It's fast and produces exellent
sound quality.

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Re: Picasso Bug ??
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@COBRA


Ok, here we go again.......


If you look at my first post you will see I am using
a CybervisionPPC Video card and a CyberVision64 video card.

I know the CVPPC does not support screen dragging.

I know the CV64 does support screen dragging.

I normally never use screen dragging; what's the point
with 4 monitors, it was only used for testing purposes.



Yes I UNDERSTOOD your post regarding Intuition, I am trying
to explain the behavior of the two RTG sytems.

Now; Intuition cannot track where screens are, so the CyberGfx system
must be keeping a list of which screens belong to which
video cards because the screens are STICKY to their cards.


I will now explain the OS3.9 CGX behaviour.....

After system boot,the Workbench screen lives on CVPPC card.
Now I open an application on the CV64 card.
I now have 2 active video outputs. (correct behaviour)

Now because the CV64 does support dragging I can drag
down the screen to reveal nothing (correct behaviour)
I can move my focus to either screen using the screen cycle gadget
at top right of said screens with both video outputs staying active.

Now I decide to open another application on additonal screen on
the CVPPC card, so now I have 2 open screens on the CVPPC and 1
open screen on the CV64.

Again I can use the screen cycle gadget to visit all 3 screens,
while cycling between screens; the 2 screens on
the CVPPC stay on the CVPPC and the screen on the CV64
stays on the CV64, additionally if I drag the screen down
on the CV64 it reviels nothing. (correct behaviour)

Now I will open another screen on the CV64, so I now have a total
of 4 screens open; 2 on the CVPPC and 2 on the CV64.

I can again visit any screen with the screen cycle gadets,
the 2 screens on the CVPPC stay on the CVPPC and the 2
screens on the CV64 stay on the CV64. (correct behaviour)

Additionally because the CV64 does support screen dragging
I can drag a screen down to reveal the seccond screen on
the CV64 but no others! (correct behaviour)

The behavior of the AGA output is also identical to the CV64. (correct behaviour)

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I will now explain the OS4 Picasso behaviour.....

After system boot, the Workbench screen lives on the CVPPC card.
Now I open an application on the CV64 card.
I now have 2 active video outputs. (correct behaviour)

If I use the screen cycle gadget to visit the other screen
it kills the video output from the screen I have just left.
(incorrect behaviour)

Because OS4 has fake screen dragging, I can drag the CVPPC
screen down to reveal a copy of the CV64 screen (Incorrect
behaviour) also massive system slowdown.

I can also drag the CV64 screen down to reveal a copy of
the CVPPC screen (incorrect behavior) more system slowdown.
(so I now have 2 copies of each screen! (wierd behaviour)

If I click to front any of the underlying screens the
display from the other card is terminated and the screen
is brought to the front, so now the screen has swapped
video cards.(incorrect behaviour).

Additionally sometimes the display on the other card is not
terminated and I get 2 copies of the same screen!

Now imagine what it's like with more than 1 open screen on
each video card, it's total chaos especially if the screens
are different resolutions and AGA is in use at the same time......


In normal use of my Amiga I require 2 or 3 active video
outputs, as I do a bit of video production and multimedia
stuff with Scala and have network cams for scurity.


Sorry Iv'e got to cut this short, got to collect the wife
from work now, talk later...........

PS: not typo checked my spelling is S**t

Wol..

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Re: Picasso Bug ??
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@COBRA

Quote:

COBRA wrote:
@Wol
The fact that when you drag down a screen and it reveals the screen behind is however quite normal.


Not when the other screen is displayed on the other video card it isn't. This never happens with CyberGfx.

Quote:

AmigaOS never had real multi-monitor support, meaning that it maintains a single screen list, not a separate screen list for each graphics card. So if you drag a screen down, the one behind it in the screen list becomes visible, regardless of which video device the screen resides on. Intuition does not know, nor does it keep track of where physically each screen resides (e.g. what graphics card, that is completely transparent to intuition). So when you drag a screen down on one gfx card and you see the screen on the other gfx card behind it, what you're seeing is a limitation of the original AmigaOS design. The whole AmigaOS graphic system needs to be thrown out and replaced by something more modern, which would allow multi-monitor support as nice as what MacOS has, and that is planned.


Well I can assure you; when using CyberGfx with OS3.**
this problem never happens. All screens stay where they
are supposed to and if you drag a screen down it ONLY
reveals the screens on that particular video card, they
never get confused. (It NEVER copies between GFX cards).

I was expecting the Picasso RTG system to be as capable
as CyberGfx RTG system, but it seems Picasso has major
design flaws and will never be able to handle more than
one GFX card. Heh; what's going to happen if I put 3 GFX
cards in ?

Quote:

Regarding screen switching, that is fast as long as your bitmaps fit into videomem. As long as the videomem runs full, the graphic system has to start moving graphics in/out of videomem. That causes slowdowns.


Well for some stupid reason Picasso seems to move bitmaps between video cards.
And somtimes when opening a new screen, it displays it on BOTH video cards at the same time...Insane..


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Re: Picasso Bug ??
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Well, it gets even worse!!!

Some screens open up on BOTH GFX cards at the same time,
but only one is responsive ( often with corruption ).

If this problem cannot be fixed, then OS4 is totally
useless for me


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Picasso Bug ??
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I've got some really weird behavior from the OS4 RTG system.

I don't know if I am the only user who has more than one
gfx card but here goes...

Current System Config:

A4000D in tower case
Standard Commodore Zorro III bus board
CyberPPC 50mhz 060 / 233mhz 604e
CybervisionPPC
UltraWide SCSI on PPC card

Zorro Boards:
Cybervision 64
Highway USB/ Norway ethernet (not active, OS4 not supported)


The Picasso RTG system seems to function fine with only
one GFX card in use, screens cycle correctly with the cycle
gadget when multipull screens are open.

Now; the ( not fun ) starts when both GFX cards are in use.

For example; I have Workbench screen on the CVPPC card and
Ibrowse on its own screen on the CV64 card.

If I use the screen cycle gadget to visit the Worbench screen,
the CV64 screen closes and stops video output,the same happens in reverse direction.
That's only a minor problem, this is Weird...

Now; if both screens are active, and I pull down any of
the screens it reveals a copy of the other screen behind
(wierd) and massive system slowdown.

Now if I click on the underlying screen, all screens go blank or the outputs get swapped about (super wierd).

Now imagine what it's like with more than one open screen
on each GFX card, the system becomes totally unusable.


Now I have to resort back to OS3.9 to do anything usefull.
I use CyberGfx 4.2 with OS3.9 and have no problems
at all with 3 GFX cards + AGA.

With CGX it takes a few milli seconds to cycle thro screens
( as fast as I can Click my mouse ), with Picasso it seems
to take about 2.5 secconds.


Anybody got any Ideas....


Wol...


Edited by Wol on 2008/10/8 17:05:39
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Re: Amiga Guru Book petition
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Stuck my name on, I will also pre pay.......


Wol..

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Re: Finally out of the dark ages !
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@agafaster

It will be quite funny, the Installation guy will want to install
some bogus software on your " PC ".
And tell you that it won`t work without Windows and their software,

comments such as these :

" You have to use our software or it won`t work "
" What do you mean our software won`t work on your computer, why not ? "

Then if he is a really bright guy, he will say :
"Oh, it must be a Mac then, we have software for one of those"

But most likley reply with:

" An Amiga, what`s one of those, I`m affraid I cannot install the equiptment and will take it back with me "


Just tell the Installation guy, to install it, test it then GO AWAY !


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Re: Amigans.net is 1 year old!
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@Severin


Hehe, it's my birthday too
now i'm an old B*****d.


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Re: Some questions regarding OS4 for Classic Amigas
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@Mikey_C

Hehe,

It's gona be a bit hard for me to plug in my 9 scsi and
2 cdrw drives into that ata thingy


Wol.

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Re: Some questions regarding OS4 for Classic Amigas
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@Rogue


Hi,

I was refering to all the IRQ conflicts etc,
how PCI cards conflict with each other.

In this day and age, things like that should not happen.




On the other hand; Zorro Autoconfig never fails,
that is, I have never heard of a Autoconfig cock up.



PS: It's true I know a lot less about PCI than Zorro,
perhaps you could explain in detail how PCI config
happens..


Kind regards,
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Re: Some questions regarding OS4 for Classic Amigas
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Why do we always standardise on the WORST system ?


IDE not SCSI

VHS not BETA

Winblows not Anything else

USB not FireWire

PCI crappy config not Zorro Autoconfig


and many more........



Wol.

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