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Re: Amiga X1000/Netbook Coverage outside the Amiga Community...
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It was on slashdot on Sunday, linking to an AmigaWorld Forum post:

http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/11 ... omises-an-amigaos-netbook

It was mentioned on OSNews as well.


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Re: New Games possible?
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I mean it has an Amiga gamne look and feel to it. Kinda like Black Lantern (?) from the old days. Has the multiple level 2D scrolling to it like in Shadow of the Beast, and doesn't have too much intense 3D graphics to make porting run into issues with incompatability. I imagine there must be some physics engine underneath the game to port, which could be used for other games perhaps?

Reminds me of Aquarius too.

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Re: New Games possible?
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So, I just saw the newest Humble Bundle was out, and while some seem like a little too much, a couple look do-able. The ones that look like thye could be converted are Frozen Synapse (turn bases shooter, looks neat) and Trine (physics based scroller, real nice). Neither of those two have a Linux version yet, through Trine says Linux version coming soon. I think Trine seems totally Amiga like, and would make a great "next gen" amiga game.

http://trine-thegame.com/site/

The main page at humblebundle has all the info on the other new games, but I just saw that and thought it seemed like a good fit, and that it might be enough eye candy without running into issues with shaders & 3d incompatabilities.

http://www.humblebundle.com/

Shadowgrounds there seems really cool too, but I figure maybe too much for the current AOS, but if someone wants to give it a shot, have at it. :)




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Radeon 5000 Open Source 2D-3D
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Today I read that AMD released their 5000 series drivers as open source:

"AMD continues to abide by their commitment to provide open-source support for their graphics cards and as proof of that this afternoon they have released their initial hardware acceleration code that supports the ATI Radeon HD 5000 "Evergreen" family of consumer grade graphics processors. While this Evergreen support isn't yet finished and for the time being is targeted towards Linux developers and enthusiasts, you can now play around with your ATI Radeon HD 5000 graphics processor on an open-source driver while having 2D EXA, X-Video, and OpenGL acceleration."

Would this be a step forward in getting hardware acceration? From what I can tell if it is supporting OpenGL, then MiniGL should be able to be supported somewhat. Anyways, I'll leave the decisions to the people in the know, but the 5000 series has some nice cards.

Here is the article that goes into it in depth:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page ... em=amd_evergreen_3d&num=1

I am sure the links off that article, or AMDs home page has the source code for it.

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Re: New Games possible?
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@MickJT

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Did my part in spreading the word.

http://blog.wolfire.com/2010/06/Lugaru-comes-to-the-Amiga


See, that's awesome. Not only is it another Amiga mention, but a teaser for X1000, promotion on AROS (and a nice video of it running under AROS), mention of Aquarius availability and a plug for amigans.net.

Does anyone have video posted of it running on AOS4.1? I'd love to see the difference between the two.

You guys are some talented coders, it makes me miss my Amiga days.

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Re: Amiga Development India
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@vox

Ya, from their site:

Amiga Development India announces Asset Purchase Agreement with Ruksun Technologies Pvt. Ltd.

Acquisition of skilled services team, intellectual property and contracts from strong computing development center grows portfolio.

Issaquah, WA/Pune, India, September 22rd 2006: Amiga Development India Pvt. Ltd. (ADI), a wholly owned subsidiary of U.S. based Amiga, Inc., announced that it has purchased the majority of the assets owned by Ruksun Software Technologies Pvt. Ltd., a Pune-based company servicing software development projects, on August 10, 2006. The acquisition includes intellectual property, business and engineering and support staff and all development contracts.

Ruksun has over thirteen years of experience in mobile, wireless and web technologies and embedded systems development. ADI will be able to leverage the experience of Amiga Inc.'s efforts in both mobile and desktop computing in order to better serve its existing and future clients. In addition, ADI will become Amiga Inc.'s off-shore development center. Amiga Development India will work to grow its customer base and will look to incorporate and grow the existing intellectual property base purchased from Ruksun.

About Amiga

Amiga, Inc., with offices in Washington state and New York, is a leading global provider of multimedia enabling technologies. For almost two decades, its award-winning software has been a mainstay for motion picture studios, multimedia creators and digital entertainment enthusiasts around the world. Today, Amiga builds on this legacy, leading the way in multimedia development by providing developers with hardware-independent technologies for writing and porting applications to new platforms and interactive devices. AmigaAnywhereT enables applications to run on a broad range of processors including ARM, StrongARM, Intel X-Scale, OMAP, MIPS, x86, and Hitachi SH series and to run hosted on a wide variety of operating systems including Linux, Windows CE .NET, Windows 2000, and Windows XP. AmigaAnywhereT applications are available online at www.shopamiga.com. For more information visit www.amiga.com.

AmigaAnywhereT is a registered trademark of Amiga, Inc. All other company and product names may be trademarks of the respective companies with which they are associated.

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Re: New Games possible?
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@kas1e

I see. I am not much versed on the interaction of the software and hardware. I mean, I just have my old A1000 that I occasionally boot up and play with, but am looking forward to getting one of the x1000.

So, Warp3D is a handler (software based?) that emulates a '3d graphics card hardware' You, or other skilled coders, would need to get the 3D handled solely in hardware. Reading up on that online I see that is the MESA side. MESA would replace miniGL as the OpenGL driver. Even with just a MESA port, it would still need to bypass the Warp3D features in os4.x from what I am gathering, or is the Warp3d side part of miniGL?

I see this video of 3D on AROS w/ Gallium 3d, pretty impressive:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kc4SEqM6Hw

So, some work was done long ago for MESA on Amiga in 1995 by (sure e-mails long changed):

AMIGA AMIWIN PORT of MESA: THE OPENGL SOFTWARE EMULATION
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Port by Victor Ng-Thow-Hing (victorng@dgp.toronto.edu)
Original Author (Brian Paul (brianp@ssec.wisc.edu)

http://www.mesa3d.org/README.AMIWIN

I think the Amiga is going to go places this summer. Hyperion should go public, so we can all buy stock and become millionaires.

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Re: New Games possible?
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@kas1e

I just read that AROS has a Gallium port that allows it to use the next Gen NVidia cards, would that be a valid start point for this?

Or is the nuances between os3.9 and os4.1 too great?

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Re: New Games possible?
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@salass00

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"Penumbra: Overture" is a pretty nice game ....


What's nice about that is it uses a 3Dengine, so if you can port the HPL1 engine, tons of 3d games would be possible.

http://github.com/FrictionalGames/HPL1Engine

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Re: New Games possible?
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@kas1e

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I will try to have a look at it today/tommorow. But will be cool if you can give the full link on archive with source (by your link i found www three, and cant found just full archive for downloading).


I just read it on Slashdot.

http://games.slashdot.org/story/10/06 ... oes-Open-Source?art_pos=5

That has a few links for different sites, not sure which one you want.

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New Games possible?
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I saw someone did a port for the Gish game into aos4.0. I just read on Slashdot that they have released their last four projects as open source. The newest is a game called Aquaria, and it looks real neat.

I bet someone is working on a frontend currently, would be a neat addition:

"Aquaria has gone open source under the GPL! Now all four of the games that pledged to open in the Humble Indie Bundle are officially open source -- the others are Lugaru, Gish, and Penumbra Overture."

Getting the source:
You can grab the source from the Mercurial repository here:

http://hg.icculus.org/icculus/aquaria/

Everything you need to know about Mercurial can be learned from Joel Spolsky's tutorial at http://hginit.com/ ... it's a fast read, and funny, too.

While many Mercurial and git clones will likely pop up, this repository will be updated with good patches, changes, fixes, and improvements from the community.

Getting the game data:
The game data is not shipping with the source code. Please buy a copy of the game (your copy from the Humble Indie Bundle will work just fine).

Now, all those demos are pretty nice graphics and Overture is a nice physics engine, what are the possibilities we'll see ports of these before the x1000 comes out.

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Re: Initial port of new Paint app.
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@kas1e

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This lodepaint program look like a linux program (menus and GUI colors) who run on the amiga but directly. How is it possible ???




Isn't that the idea of open source though? You build your own frontend, and use the programs data files, etc. to run the open source portion.

Same way we have Gish now, that cool tar ball game. It's open source, and you download the amiga frontend, and install their data files to play.

Getting to summer!

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Re: What Games Could We Expect On X1000?
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I think ultimately it would be nice to get something like Call of Duty released for the x1000, but it would be a real game changer if they were to release something innovative, not already existing on current platforms. Back when the Amiga was king, it was the innovator. How many games of the 2000s were rehashed amiga games? Populous started a whole genre of games, as well as lemmings and worms.

The main thing I am excited with the x1000 is the possibilities it brings in design using the xmos component side of it. It would be possible to design a custom processor that could do just about anything. I already have one idea that I have been wanting to design, and the xmos side will make the process so much easier. It also makes it possible for me to write off the x1000 as a business expense. You could make anything from digital clocks to I-Pod docking stations.

So, we could see a unique combination of devices that actually brings a new user base (or ex-amiga users) to the platform. Even just something that uses those new brain wave (thought process driven) devices to drive a xorro connected LED/ display screen that creates different designs based on throught pattern. Tons of applications we got available to us soon.

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Re: A1000 General Discussion
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@mz3540

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There's been some great stories told in this thread!


@Arcane5150

I know the genlock you're talking about... they are one of the most awesome looking attachments I've ever seen for an Amiga... What was the Ram expansion you had? did it plug into the front reu port or was it an attachment to the side port?



It plugged into the front reu port. The middle of the case had a removable front case there that exposes the metal slot cover.

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Re: A1000 General Discussion
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@mz3540

I also have an Amiga 1000; purchased used from a local computer store in 1985/6 or so. Definitely a rare machine to see in the wild nowadays.

I too am extremely stoked over the new X1000, and have about made the same decision you have. I am pretty much (80%) decided on purchasing one once it becomes available, for the same reasons. Going back to when computing was fun.

My Amiga 1000 has the second disk drive, the genlock attachment that slides into the port in the back (and underneath where the keyboard is stored) and the 1 Meg memory upgrade.

That 1 Meg memory upgrade was sweet. I had the A1000 for years before I got it, and after I installed it games "just knew" that it was present and there were more features to them - new sounds, etc. that were present in the games that weren't before with 512k.

Such an exciting machine still after being released over 30 years ago!

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Re: I've not touched my Amiga 1200 for many YEARS !!!
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@vodkasoda

Likewise I have been messing with my 1000. It booted up nicely, but many of my game disks seem corrupted. :(

It has the genlock add-on which is working nicely and the constant click of the second disc drive brought back some memories. I too couldn't remember how to access the disc from cli, what made me laugh when I saw your post. DF0: DF1: doh! Before I started it I cleaned it out, and it was the first time I saw the enstamped case of the designers signatures (and the paw print). I've been lurking waiting for the next-gen to come out.

Is it actually true I can now get a SAM440ep w/ OS4.1 sent to me and is that the next gen solution? It seems a little lacking in upgrade features, is there anything else coming out soon?

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Re: Who will be No. 500???
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@Needle

So, where are the new computers?

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Re: Amiga user for the longest time?
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@Skov

Damn, I can't remember. I know my brother and me harassed my parents to get us one, I'd have to say it was Christmas '85. Amiga 1000 with genlock and hard drive. I later bought the 512 expansion for it. You know, after I installed that I was amazed at the difference. I upgraded it and games just automatically knew it was there and worked better, like played more sounds and performed better, without having to set anything up, it just did. Never could beat the platform. I hope this new hardware comes to fruition.

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Re: No interest in Amiga huh?
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@GregS

I am really excited in this news of new hardware. I hope it is not just a pipe dream. Microsoft is at what you'd call Critical Mass. I have been waiting for years to pick up a new Amiga, and it seems I may finally have my chance. I used an Amiga 1000 for years when i was younger, and it still works to this day. I have been lurking on this board for quite some time, finally registerred. Look forward to some conversation.

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