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Terminal program
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Can anyone recommend a good terminal program? I'm meaning good ol' RS232, not that modern IP tomfoolery.

On the same topic, do any USB->RS232 converters play well with OS4?

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Re: Anyway to get *un*parsed shell arguments for a portable C program?
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Doing:

prog *.c

You will always get the globed arguments in your main function. Your program knows not wether the user typed in each argument or globed with the wild card. It should infact never have to care. This is a good part of unix design and sets it apart from the IMO crapper way amigaos leaves this to the program being run. Likewise quoting is a function of the shell under unix.

prog "foo bar"

Will cause your main to see one argument without the quotes.

Hope this helps. I'm not sure what you are really wanting to do...

Lawrence

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Re: KingCon and Amiga OS 4.1
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One of my fave bits of OS3.1 software. I just wish it could do unlimited scrollback.

Lawrence

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Re: OS4 and internet drop
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yescop wrote:
Hello,
I will described here a problem that I had with OS4 for ages and more often since OS4.1.5.
It seems a (bit) common problem as I read some posts about it.

Whatever my uses of internet (torrent, ftp, web...), I regularly got this error:

PING 192.168.0.1 (192.168.0.1): 56 data bytes
ping: sendto: No buffer space available
ping: wrote 192.168.0.1 64 chars, ret=-1


SAM460? I had that problem a few times, usually when also doing lots of disk access. Chalked it down to a driver bug somewhere.

Lawrence

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Re: Amicygnix in Network/Misc ??
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It should be under some top level "unix" heading, IMO.

Lawrence

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Re: Should I buy an AmigaOne 500 or an AmigaOne X1000?
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Androxyn wrote:
@ Delta
"OWB is fast"

Well, that is not my experience. Surfing on the Amiga is still a sluggish affair. On simple sites, like the Amiga sites, it works fine. Advanced, modern sites is a drag, though. Trying to juggle two modern sites in different tabs = hell. If one site stops, the second tab will also freeze, so you can't surf on one site while the other loads.

I don't know if this is a software issue or limitations of AmigaOne 500.


Seconded. MUI-OWB is useable with simple sites, and a few complex ones as well. But even a long wikipedia article pretty much locks the browser on my system for a minute or so. Wikipedia makes scant use of JS and the styling is simple, so it must be purely the length of the page that jams it up. OWB is certainly usable, but "fast" is certainly stretching the truth.

This is on a SAM460.

Lawrence

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Re: Should I buy an AmigaOne 500 or an AmigaOne X1000?
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OlafS3 wrote:
is the same problem there when using Linux? If not it is a problem with AOS (driver)


I'm not even certain the Ubuntu build has sound support, but I'll check and get back to you.

Lawrence

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Re: Should I buy an AmigaOne 500 or an AmigaOne X1000?
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The SAM460 is a great machine. Only issue to be to be aware of is sound drivers. A few folks, myself included, still do not have satisfactory sound. It seems fairly random, who has working sound and who doesn't. Might be related to when the board was made, who knows.

The 460 has far better bangs per buck. But then the X1000 will really fly if/when things like SMP get implemented. It's also more expandable.

Your dilemma is very much the same as mine, but my budget could only stretch to the 460. I'm still glad that, despite the sound problems I went with the 460 instead of the 440, but only just...

Lawrence

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Re: AmiWest 2012 News?
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Chris wrote:
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OpenOffice struggles on my work mac mini with dualcore 2.5Ghz and 4GBof RAM. It's just a bloated load of ..... IMO.


Really? It runs fine on my netbook, and that's a 900MHz Celeron!


It might be cos I'm running neooffice, a native cocoa version. Maybe the main windows or linux versions run faster.

Last I heard it still relied on Java, which is, generally speaking, a bad thing for perfomrance...

Lawrence

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Re: AmigaOS 4 next sdk release?
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broadblues wrote:
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In an ideal world I would rebuild perl with newlib and the latest pethreads but it's not going to happen soon as there are a few issues with using newlib for lowlevel language implmentation or at least those like perl that do redirection of console IO.


It would be nice if it wasn't a 5 year old version too, but I can see these porting efforts being a horrendous undertaking.

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the word 'contribution' before all the entries in the installer didn't give you a clue?

I agree patch should be present, but removing diff-utils as a fix seems a little odd


No, I just installed the lot as most people will do. gcc is as much a "contribution" to the SDK as patch, was my point. So what if gcc is a fundamental part, it's still not written "for the OS". Therefore the distinction of what's a contribution is arbitary. IMO.

Since diffutils generates diffs, which can then be applied with patch (or perhaps just read by a human for some reason or other).... yes, diffutils alone is kind of useless. IMO again.

Anyways, back to attempting to port libpurple.

Lawrence


Edited by Aslak3 on 2012/10/21 18:25:37
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Re: AmiWest 2012 News?
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What about a native Abiword? That's quite good, isn't it? By "native" I don't mean using X.

OpenOffice struggles on my work mac mini with dualcore 2.5Ghz and 4GB of RAM. It's just a bloated load of ..... IMO.

Lawrence

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Re: AmigaOS 4 next sdk release?
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broadblues wrote:
Thread.pm ?


No. pthreads.library or something. On a standard OS4.1 update 5 + SDK fully installed, the perl binary does not run. I had to download it from os4depot.

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patch is allready present.

All the above are contributions and not strictly part of the SDK.


Patch is not present, actually. I had to download it.

They may be "contributions" but then they are all in the same "SDK" download so it is impossible to know where contributions start. The SDK ships with diffutils so it is natural that it also ships with patch (or diffutils should be removed, one or the other).

I believe the SDK *used* ship with patch, as some people clearly got it with the SDK. But that wasn't the case for me when I downloaded it about a month ago.

Lawrence

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Re: AmigaOS 4 next sdk release?
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If perl could be fixed that would be great. It's missing a thread library.

Also gnu patch and gnu find would be handy.

Lawrence

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Re: Amiga North Thames (ANT) meeting this Sunday
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Will do swisso. PM me your mobile number and I'll text you my address nearer next months meeting?

And when is next months meeting?

Lawrence

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Re: Amiga North Thames (ANT) meeting this Sunday
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How did it go? Sorry I missed it *again*. Mrs was poorly. Even if I could get there....

Lawrence

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Re: USB devices that work with OS4.1 Update 5
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USB sound would be awesome.

Lawrence

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Re: AmigaOne 500 audio is slow
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graffias79 wrote:

Apparently it is not available for bi-directional use. This is what I have gathered from reading here. Unfortunately. The onboard SM502 audio on my sam board is not working properly and there is no way to circumvent it. I have simply given up until a properly functioning driver has been released or the operating system has support for PCI-E.


Darn it. I'd "happily" spend another 40quid for working sound. I would mind less if USB sound was available as I have a nice dongle around. Probably the worst of all situations, but right now my SAM460 has no speakers plugged in because I don't want to hear either crackly or slow sound.

Maybe a SAM440 would have been a better choice overall. An amiga without sound is not an amiga....

Lawrence

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Re: lpr and OS4.1
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Raziel wrote:

Update 5, LaserJet 5L and lpr.device here

...

Put lpr.device in DEVS:

Create a text file called "lpr.device" in ENVARC: containing
"HOST=192.168.178.2 PORT=9100 RAW"

Of course you have to make sure which the right IP is to send the data to.

The printer is connected with the USB port of my router.

Works like a charm and is in fact easier to install on an Amiga than on a PC


Thank's for that Raziel! I think the problem is probably on the server. Though the lpq etc commands work on the Linux box, I'm not convinced the port is open on the server. So I think the first thing to do is get the CUPS server to emulate the line printer protocol...

Lawrence

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Re: lpr and OS4.1
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I had a go at getting my printer working but gave up. It's a HP LJ with postscript hanging off my fileserver, which in turn is on the LAN via CUPS.... IF anyone's got something like that working I'd be interested to hear how.

Lawrence

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Re: String defines with spaces (shell prob?)
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gcc -o test test.c -DPRINTSTRING="test\ 2"

Appears to have the desired effect on the amiga shell. (I'm not really that familar with quoting rules in amiga shell, and worked that out by experimenatation)

In /bin/sh, you might do:

gcc -o test test.c -DPRINTSTRING=""test 2""

(EDIT: It seems this forum software has a bug. I had to double backslash here to get the right text in the post!)

In this case, the outter backslashed double quote prevents the shell from splitting the content across two arguments and the inner quote satisfies the C source.

I actually prefer the amiga shell rules here, but it fails under /bin/sh because the quoting causes the baskslashed space to be a litteral backslash followed by a space, thus splitting the argument.

Clearly quoting and escaping rules are for massocists.

Lawrence

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