If they don't reach the goal, they don't get any money = no game.

Well, 23 days is still a lot to go, and Kickstarter projects gather most of their cash at the beginning and at the very end.

And I agree with Chris, info on the game itself seems really scarce(come on, videos with ships flying around in space aren't really telling anything new) and the whole thing isn't being marketed loud enough :d

If you're flying an Eagle I'd suggest fitting in the class 2 engine and go for interstellar deliveries. You can't take any extra cargo except for fuel with it, but I'm pretty sure you'll be making more money in the same real time, even if noticeably more in-game time.

Anyway I gave up any trade attempts, at least in this nerfed ship.

Just save your game before taking any dangerous-but-well-paid delivery.. it's worth(I think they're paid 1500 to 2000 credits) it but you're kinda done for in the silly Eagle if you bump into two 3-4 times bigger ships waiting for you.. :D

I'm now collecting for the police (Viper) craft, which has a very nice model in here <3. Not sure if it isn't FFE D3D model, though. Still cool.

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Yeah I've noticed that too at some point, but even though there are factions now there doesn't really seem to be any use of it for now.. but haven't played much enough yet.

What I'm missing is the ability to negotiate mission rewards.. :D

Also, be careful about installing any mods after you've already started game. I'm especially thinking of FFE mod that changes some stuff like ship stats back to original Frontiers. You might suddendly wake up having negative amount of free cargo space after loading saved game.. :D

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I have autopilot from the very start o.O At least on the Eagle when I begin on Earth.

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I'm not 100% sure but I believe that the systems which are in hyperjump range have brightened names contrary to the dark-colored names of out-of-range stars.

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Now that's something I miraculously missed (happens :p). Thanks.

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Yup, although I'd expect it'd apply to all parts of the IP, like ship design and names, too. But of course it's only good that at least the ships are there =)

As for universe being "believable", this one is certainly more realistic than Frontier's, as I mentioned earlier.

Cheers =)
Lucas

Edit: and must also add that successfully completing any non-local delivery mission on time in an LR Eagle craft is impossible unless you fit in a class 2 engine..

I think you slightly misunderstood my post :p

As for difficulty, it's not really a problem. There is autopilot, lack of circle is not really a problem since there's that red/green line indicating if the system is in range or not. It is indeed hard to find a decent trade route.

Hyperspace jumps, too, seem to consume a bit more time than in Frontier/FFE, so it's hard to decide whether you are able to finish the mission in time or not.

As for what you misunderstood, is me saying it's not THE Frontier. While it has striking resemblance, the game does not take place in Elite's universe. There are no Elite factions(as said, no Core Systems Federation, no Empire [with it's capital in mentioned Achenar system), no Elite itself. I can't dock to Li Quing Jao or Mikhail Gorbatschev since they simply don't exist =P
Only ships are there.

On the other hand, the map seems to be based on real space maps, maybe even utilising real planets (since astronomers have found quite a bit of them so far), but I haven't confirmed that anywhere.

Played a little yesterday again and took a liking to it, but as it's alpha it seemed to crash quite a bit.
And those hellish trade routes :p

Took you a while to come across this little pearl indeed ;)

Been playing some earlier alphas a while back, but never got dragged into it. It's still a Frontier-like game, not THE Frontier. No Achenar - no Empire, no Federation. I've been surprised to find out how inability to dock to Li Quing Jao or Mikhail Gorbatschev spoiled the game for me.

I understand it's copyright-stuff related? It's funny as many original Frontier ships have been recreated.
Or they simply didn't want to copy someone :p Completely.
Though seeing how far they went with it, I'd myself go for it fully, if possible.

I say FFE D3D is more fun to play for a Frontier fan, on a PC that is. Although I might give Pioneer another shot now,
the alpha number went up by quite a bit :p

But since FFE can't really be ported (leaving aside the D3D part, I believe there's no source out there?), the idea of porting Pioneer to NG OSes is awesome, so I'm wholeheartedly cheering you on.

As long as there's 3D support at all, I don't think it really need some neat hardware. On low settings running perfect on my laptop with a GMA900, which by some is barely even called a GPU. And still looks fine.
It does have a C2D 1.8GHz though.

Welcome =) Although I'm still not quite an Amiga user myself at the moment and it will stay that way for a while - welcome =)

Yay! While searching for something in a drawer that hasn't been cleaned for long, long time, found something nice :D

http://i42.tinypic.com/1z6a3a0.jpg

Those were a part of my 2nd, damaged A500 which I kept for parts =p I have one Amiga now, and the right one!... xD

By the way, is the fact that they almost form word "PEACE" some kind of message for the community.. ;]

Well it's not so "soon"... although for Amiga world it indeed might be.. hmm

Thanks, will take a look at it. Although I'm more into lower level programming - C, maybe even assembler if necessary (might be on the netbook..).

Edit: Ah, never mind.. might be a good thing for me to take a look at after all.

But... ah never mind, lost will to argue on this anymore. Frankly - why the hell would I defend THEM anyway

I'm not even trying to want to have it both ways. The fact about custom hardware being too expensive (it's not that people complain it's too expensive - it simply is) is something I've brought up myself, both here and on the polish site (PPA). I'm happy that there will be AOS4 hardware for reasonable price - even though it could and should've been done long ago - I'm simply saying that we can't use that argument(rebranded hardware) against A inc when we're going in the same direction now.

@328gts

I don't support A.. inc since they don't seem to be really interested in Amiga except for putting the name on random hardware but..

..what else is the announced netbook if not a rebranded, existing product (running linux probably in this case).

So yeah, I believe there are enough reasons for us not to be interested in their products but don't force yourself to think up arguments that fire back at us =p

It's only a speculation based on guesses on forums and the fact that LimePC is like only option. Nothing that hasn't been said earlier.

Nearly everything (including my cell phone) can run classic apps through emulation if you want to, so it would be rather strange if OS 4.x didn't =)

/sorry for the offtop.

Ahh.. so it sounds kinda decided. If it has this CPU on board they can't really put in the 800MHz MPC8xxx even if they wanted to since it's not compatible on hardware level... (redesigning the board = boosting the price up to somewhat around SAM prices, I reckon?)

But on the other hand, knowing the OS price and hoping the price will be below 400$, we can say that the hardware alone is about hmm.. 250$? Still not quite bad - but it will need a very well optimized browser.

I'm not interested in coding for classic Amigas. Past is past, 68k is buried deep beneath the ground for me.

I thought of rather using AROS for now to get on to AOS libraries and system-specific stuff (they're all derived from AOS 3.x, after all) but I've been told that AROS/AOS4/MOS have diverged too much from each other for one to be a good reference for programming on the other... (so yeah here I must note that I get your point - but it's still not for me to do something under emulation.. =)). Well I'm not in hurry, I'll take my time to do theoretical research first

Hello there! Name's Lucas, and I'm an old amigan(but actually quite young if we talk classic amigans - 22) who has finally parted with his A500 nearly 10 years ago (yup, I was a kid, but a true amigan at heart writing simple games in AMOS for myself etc. =) ) and has been in "away" state in the world of Amiga since then.

Recently I've started popping in on various Amiga sites(earlier I did once a year or so...?) and I've seen both bad and good thing.. bad? Amiga community divided like Korea, good? The fact the 'show must go on' of course. And recently the news about AmigaOS 4 netbook which might, just might draw old amigans like myself to see how's it rollin today - depending on how useful it turns out to be.

I know C/C++ a bit (been interested in so-called "Elfpack" for non-smart Sony Ericsson phones for a while) so I hope to be able to contribute somehow, probably in more distant future though by the reasons mentioned below.

That's all for introduction, I've got completely no Amiga (MOS/AOS) hardware for now so I'll rather stay a 'just a reader' for a while =). See you on forums!

Those news are surprisingly positive (^.-), although I'll wait for final specs/price press release or something before I'll even start considering it seriously.

400 MHz CPU doesn't sound too appealing for Internet browsing with today's websites. (noone said it is such processor but knowing it's an existing OEM hardware and thinking about existing PPC netbooks - it's likely...). And it's a netbook so comfortable web browsing is a priority here.

"I would gladly pay 100 more for dubbel the speed!"
I wouldn't. I see no reason for it to cost 100 more when the 800MHz e300 costs barely 20$ more. And if they're not hardware-compatible(I guess they're not?) it would cost more than 100$ unless the OEM has a different board ready to produce.. But it's all pure speculation since we don't know what kind of CPU actually sits in there.. =)

Hello everyone, by the way =)