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Re: NTFS formatted hard disk recognition
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@xenic Quote:
I have an external NTFS formatted hard disk that I use for file transfer between Amiga and PC. It was formatted on a laptop PC and works fine on the PC. It is recognized when I plug it in to my Amiga through USB but file transfer is really slow so I want to access it as an external SATA drive. When I plug it in as an external SATA drive it is not recognized. Media Toolbox sees it but won't access it unless it's installed. My question is: If I install the drive in Media Toolbox will it still work on a PC??

Is your external drive originally an ordinary SATA drive which you just use with different adapters? How do you connect it as an _external_ SATA drive? I do not own a X1000, but does it indeed have an external eSATA port...?!

In my X5000, if I connect SATA drives, initialized into the MBR format, to the internal Sata connectors, the NTFS partitions are recognized also by AmigaOS. There is no need to install them with Media Toolbox.

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Re: X5000 just turned off
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daveyw wrote:It has become semi-regular for me. I was experiencing it every few minutes. Re-plugged the power cable to the motherboard and it largely solved the problem but after a day or so powered up, it will st switch itself off.

One possibility is that there is somewhere (cable/component/connector) an intermittent short circuit, activated e.g. by heat or a certain position of a cable. That would cause the PSU to cut-off power.

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Re: TP-link TG-3468 ethernet board (RTL 8161) not working with AmigaOS4.1
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Unfortunately, the "subvariants" are the problem. It is not said, that two 8168H chips actually have the same MAC or PHY version. They should, but in reality they don't have to. I had this issue with 8139 and 8169 already. The documentation gives many information, but i heavily depends on the version of the documentation you've got.

Ok, thanks for the info... I do not envy you who have to deal with that kind of mess while developing drivers .

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If you can't find a chipset, supported properly by all three systems, the suggestion of nbache is probably the way to go for you. Use two network cables, one on the internal NIC for AmigaOS and MOS and the other one for Linux.

Well, I have now all the three versions (2.0, 3.0 and 4.0) of TG-3468 in my hands, and tested them in a second X5000 (quad core). Quite peculiar... The v. 2.0 board which did not work with MorphOS in X5020 works with all OSs in X5040! Any idea why...? I tested the same MOS disk/installation in both machines, so the difference does not come from there.

Here is the complete compatilbility pattern for TG-3468:

V.2.0 board (RTL8168E GCC17P1 GG526)

* Works in X5040 with AmigaOS, MOS and Linux, but in X5020 only with AmigaOS and Linux


V.3.0 board: (RTL8168E JCE75P1 GJ51B)

* Works with AmigaOS, MOS and Linux


V.4.0 board: (RTL8168H KCCD6H1 QK51)

* Works with MOS and Linux


So, I can use the V3 board in X5020 and V2 board in X5040, which solves my problem - no need to hunt a second V3 board.

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Re: TP-link TG-3468 ethernet board (RTL 8161) not working with AmigaOS4.1
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@CyborgQuote:
Cyborg wrote:This is exactly the kind of issue I (and obviously also the MOS devs) faced when developing network drivers for Realtek chipsets: there are a zillion different versions of each chip. Each with more or less subtle changes and incompatibilities. Setting only a single bit of one of the registers different may cause one chip of the "same" family work and another one fail.

In this case, it is even worse, because you are trying to use a driver for one family (8169) with chips from a different family (8168 - the 8161 is a variant of it).

There are actually a few variants of 8168 chips (those are native PCIe chips), which work similar enough to an 8169 (PCI) variant and hence work with rtl8169.device. The vast majority doesn't however.


Thank you for clarifying the situation... Can you identify those different RTL variants on the basis of the code strings printed on the chips, or are there subvariants even within them? Are these variants properly documented, or do you have to test yourself how they behave?

I checked the codes from those two TG-3468 boards I have now at hands:

V.4.0 board
RTL8168H
KCCD6H1
QK51

V.2.0 board
RTL8168E
GCC17P1
GG526

The third card (which works with all OSs) I have is probably v. 3.0 but cannot check it now as it is in my second machine located otherwhere.

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The only way to support most (not all) variants of 8168 would be to write a dedicated driver for 8168. As far as I can see from a very quick look, there are at least 9 (!) different configuration paths to follow, depending on the exact variant. So it is not exactly a 5 minute job, if I even could be motivated to take the job .. I don't really see the benefit of it beyond rare special cases. Most of the time the internal NIC is enough or a supported PCI solution can be used.


Yes, it would mean too much work to try to support all variants... But would it be easier to modify the current RTL8169 driver and add there support for a variant present e.g. in the latest TG-3468 revision?

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So, I would actually suggest to get a plain 8169 board for good old PCI if you aren't able to use the internal NIC.


Actually I had originally such one in the machine I have now in front of me but it started to show connection problems with Linux, and it did not work at all with MOS. The primary reason I need a separate NIC is Linux, which does not work with the X5000's internal NIC (network needs the 'unplug/replug' tric to become available), and it would also be unpractical to move the network cable from one nic to another when switching OS.

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Re: TP-link TG-3468 ethernet board (RTL 8161) not working with AmigaOS4.1
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Story continues... I succeeeded to find an older v.2.0 TG-3468 board. This one works also with AmigaOS (and with Linux as the v.4.0 board did), but not with MorphOS! The card is recognized by the RTL8168 driver of MOS but it cannot be configured properly. There appears a window (NetStack.log) showing this error message:

Wed Jul 06 18:22:48 UCT 2022 [err ]: S2_CONFIGINTERFACE: Invalid address

What does that mean...? Is there something to try to fix that issue, e.g. in the advanced network settings of MOS?

PS. The chip on the v.2.0 board is recognized as RTL8168 (v. 06).


Edited by Gregor on 2022/7/6 20:16:09
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Re: TP-link TG-3468 ethernet board (RTL 8161) not working with AmigaOS4.1
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@trgswe

The best solution would be to find another one of the older version of TG-3468. But it is a hit and miss as most dealers do not know what they are selling.

>and remeber you have two ethernet ports on the X5000 both I think works on linux.

No they don't... Please reread my answer to Skateman above!

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Re: TP-link TG-3468 ethernet board (RTL 8161) not working with AmigaOS4.1
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@trgswe

>should it not be
>ENVARC:rtl8168.device
>VENDORID=0x10EC
>DEVICEID=0x8161

I'm afraid not... If I do it as you adviced, I get an additional error requester:

Erorr in configuration file for unit 0.
.... (212)

I did it as adviced in the .doc file located here:

Sys:Documentation/rtl8169_dev/

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Re: TP-link TG-3468 ethernet board (RTL 8161) not working with AmigaOS4.1
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@Skateman
>Why not use the onboard X5000 adapter ??

Because it does not work with Linux! You seem to forget that you are the ONLY X5000 user for which that is working normally... All others have to use the unplug/replug trick with Linux, which is unacceptable.

Besides, I do not have free ethernet ports in my router to use two lines for X5000. I have to have one adapter which works with all OSs (AmigaOS, MOS and Linux). The earlier version of TG-3468 was such.

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TP-link TG-3468 ethernet board (RTL 8161) not working with AmigaOS4.1
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I bought a TP-link TG-3468 (v. 4.0) ethernet board for my X5000. I have used the same product before, and it has worked ok with AmigaOS, MOS and Linux.

This new board does not seem work with AmigaOS anymore. Ranger reports it has a rtl8161 chip ( the earlier one had a rtl8168). In MOS it works automatically with the rtl8168 driver, which would suggest the rtl 8161 is compatible with rtl8168.

But why does it not work with AmigaOS...? Is there some trick to get the AmigaOS driver to accept the card? I did already try to create a settings file 'unit0' into ENVARCHIVE/rtl8169.device" drawer with this type of text, without success:

VENDORID=0x10EC
DEVICEID=0x8168


Edited by Gregor on 2022/7/6 19:39:20
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YAM and GMX mail
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Does anyone here use GMX mail? Does it work with YAM, without needing to use two step identification? I'm looking for a mail service to replace gmail, as I do not want to give my private phone number to Google to get it working again.

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Re: Null-modem cable for X5000
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@Cyborg
Ok, thanks for confirmation!

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Null-modem cable for X5000
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Does this kind of ordinary null-modem cable work with the serial port of X5000:

https://www.delock.com/produkt/86608/merkmale.html

It would be used for debugging, with this kind of adapter at the receiving end:

https://www.reichelt.com/fi/en/digitus ... -da-70156-p99617.html?r=1

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PTP is missing 'delete' option
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PTP included with Enhancer 2.1 package does not seem to have an option to delete pictures. Is there a special reason for this?

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Re: Amiga X5k CPU Cooler
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@geennaam

>According to the cputemp docky, the cpu temperature is stable at 49 degC at a cpu load of 100%.

You get surpricingly low temperature with full CPU load... Sounds unbelievable. With the 60mm Noctua, I get 55 degC when the computer is totally idle! The ambient room temperature is 24 degC.

What kind of case are you using, and what type of fans does it have? I use a F.D. Core 2500, with a 120 mm fan at bottom blowing in at full speed (12V) and a 140mm one at top-back blowing out (12V with a RC-10 low-noise adapter).

> Edit: It actually came with a reducer afterall. It's a so called LNA cable (Low noise adapter) .

Noctua has actually three different models of low-noise adapters:
RC-15 (27 ohm resistor)
RC-10 (50 ohm resistor)
RC-12 (150 ohm resistor)

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Re: PageStream crashes when importing EPS files under AmigaOS4.1
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@lazi

Ok, thanks for testing... I tried also to disable 'JIT' from compatibility prefs, and export eps from PGS but no change.

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Re: PageStream crashes when importing EPS files under AmigaOS4.1
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@lazi

Do you have VPDF installed (from OS4depot)? In it's 'test' directory there is a sample file named 'hello.pdf'. If I print it with AmiGS (using default settings) to an eps file, it has the size of 6484 bytes. Can you import also that into PGS in your system without a crash?

What machine are you using? I have a X5000. Maybe this issue is depending on hardware...?

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Re: PageStream crashes when importing EPS files under AmigaOS4.1
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@lazi

>Try this workaround:
>-open the eps file with AmiGS
>-print to an eps file
>-import the new eps file to PageStream

Thanks for the tip, but unfortunately eps files created with AmiGS also cause a crash in PageStream. BTW, it seems that AmiPDF prints via AmiGS, and it is AmiPDF which I have used for creating eps files from PDF ones.


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Re: Amiga X5k CPU Cooler
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@Helloworld

> Noctua fans are a good choice, silent and long lasting.

I agree.

>If airflow is a concern then you could use a 80mm to 60mm fan adapter,
>a funnel which allows you to mount a larger fan with lower RPM to the
>X5000's stock heatsink like a Gelid Silent 8.

I have used a silent 80 mm Noctua model with that type of funnel adapter, but the noise from air flow was at full speed too high to my taste. If I lowered the speed slightly with a low-noise adapter (=resistor), the effect on the CPU temperature was quite nominal (1-2 degrees), when compared to a 60 mm fan.

The best solution would be to replace the original heat sink (which is just too low/small) with a higher and more efective model, Does anyone know a heat sink which would fit properly on the Cyrus board...?

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Re: PageStream crashes when importing EPS files under AmigaOS4.1
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Could someone here please confirm that the import EPS issue is generally present with OS 4.1, and not just a local problem due to my settings...? EPS files can be easily created e.g. with AmiPDF, by printing a document as EPS to a file. Thank you!-)

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Re: Radeon HD 6450
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@LiveForIt

>The drivers on AmigaOS4.1 boot cd, is only for booting, its not the full
>driver, you need to buy driver from A-EON. To get higher resolutions.

Now I do not understand your point...? I have not mentioned the boot cd anywhrere in my text and have NOT used the basic driver on it! I use only the latest Radeon HD driver from the Enhancer Plus package, and everything I have written in this thread points only to it.

Besides, the resolution limit of that 'basic driver' on CD is only 1024x768, much lower than the 1080p (1920 x ....) someone mentioned here to be the limit with HD 6450 and HDMI. So, the 'basic driver' has nothing to do with the issues discussed here.

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