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Re: What is needed for speedup Amicygnix ???
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Posted on: 2009/7/18 21:22
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@Mrodfr Quote:
Mrodfr wrote:
@Jack
What is the goal, finally ???
On previous releases I had some other responsivness-related issues with certain apps, switching the dislpay to ethernet's I address cured the issues. @LiveForIt Quote:
The loop back is always 127.0.0.1 on all computers, 127.0.0.1 is computers local address.
Yes. And cygnix (for obvious reasons ) defaults to display bound to localhost(=127.0.01). It can be bound to either local network interface. See paragraph above for reasoning behind the proposed test. Jack
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Re: Reinstall OS4?
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Posted on: 2009/7/17 16:25
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@magic Quote:
magic wrote:
@thomas
The word "Reinstall" Is an invention made by Micro$oft.
Its the same with "Reboot" "DeFrag".
You forgot the "Reformat" 
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Re: What is needed for speedup Amicygnix ???
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Posted on: 2009/7/17 16:23
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@Mrodfr Quote:
Mrodfr wrote:
@Jack
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Just shooting in the dark: can someone with Sam to set Cygnix/DISPLAY env var to IP:0 (in env:, not envarc: where IP is your ethernet card's IP address and test for speed of local X11 apps?Jack
on sys:prefs/env-archive/Cygnix/DISPLAY
the content of the file is localhost:0.
localhost is a loopback interface. The test is to use the address of your network card if youre connected to some lan (including adsl/cable modem). Typically it is 192.168.something or 10.something. Use "c:shownetstatus" to figure it out. Jack
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Re: The Amiga Samba Support Thread
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Posted on: 2009/7/17 9:15
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@Mikey_C
the smbfs link in the troubleshooting section is missing, and there's a comment about removed file one section above that is seems relevant to the link....
And I think that keeping up with the latest Olaf's release of smbfs from sourceforge should be permanently plastered there as a requirement (that. for example, solves issues with linux' hosted filesystems under samba server>=3.2)
Besides that guide is great starting point.
Jack
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 "the expression, 'atonal music,' is most unfortunate--it is on a par with calling flying 'the art of not falling,' or swimming 'the art of not drowning.'. A. Schoenberg
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Re: What is needed for speedup Amicygnix ???
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Posted on: 2009/7/15 21:36
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@broadblues Quote:
broadblues wrote:
@Jack
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Mainly Firefox + flash at the moment as my linux inxtall has been really stripped
This is slow. Firefox is much slower on AmiCygnix than Seamonkey. Quote:
also Cheese WebCam Booth.
Both work better via X type connections under linux, (when compared to VNC).
These two are probable slow too. Quote:
I also access remote shells more easily via VNC rather than ssh (except that I start VNC via ssh) as it easier to use sh with a unix console. This is usually for starting remote blender renders on the slightly faster machine.
That depends on terminal window. Tabs-capable ones can reduce the number of windows.Xfce4-terminal and gnome-terminal behave reasonably. And vinced shell +extended vt setup can do the trick using native amiga window,
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Re: What is needed for speedup Amicygnix ???
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Posted on: 2009/7/14 23:36
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@cygnusEd Quote:
@Jack
Quote:Xorg's radeon driver has 2d acceleration, and xorg itself has some extensions to do the job faster (that are not present in AmiCygnix due to older version).
Hmm - but when I use this driver, I have to hijack the gfx card? Or am I wrong?
Xorgs radeon driver relies on kernel's radeon driver. When kernel driver isn't loaded, xorg set up explicitly with radeon won't start. Edit: yes it hits the card directly. takes one of virtual consoles. What we need is extensions. AmiCygnix: BIG-REQUESTS DOUBLE-BUFFER LBX MIT-SHM MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD SECURITY SHAPE SYNC XC-APPGROUP XC-MISC XIE Xorg on x86: BIG-REQUESTS Composite DAMAGE DOUBLE-BUFFER DPMS Extended-Visual-Information GLX MIT-SCREEN-SAVER MIT-SHM MIT-SUNDRY-NONSTANDARD RANDR RECORD RENDER SECURITY SGI-GLX SHAPE SYNC TOG-CUP X-Resource XAccessControlExtension XC-APPGROUP XC-MISC XFIXES XFree86-Bigfont XFree86-DGA XFree86-DRI XFree86-Misc XFree86-VidModeExtension XINERAMA XInputExtension XKEYBOARD XTEST XVideo Imho, "damage" extensions would help, and so "render" Jack
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Re: What is needed for speedup Amicygnix ???
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Posted on: 2009/7/14 23:13
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@cygnusEd Quote:
This is a problem of the window manager "OpenBox". The window manager is responsible for the way windows are moved. OpenBox only supports opaque movements. You could switch to "mwm" (Motif Window Manager). He uses a frame for window movements, but he is less comfortable. Use myX11Setup for this.
I have a new window manager here: The Equinox Window Manager. He is a bit faster than OpenBox and supports also frame movements. Maybe you like to test it?
Once upon a time there was amiwm - looked like workbench 2.0  Simple than mwm Anyway, jokes aside, one could make a minimastic environment with mwm+toolbar if he/she doesn't care tweaking text configs andtoolbar inability to display amything othern than xpm icons. About Equinox: I would like to have a ride too Keep on doing the great job with AmiCygnix! Jack
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Re: What is needed for speedup Amicygnix ???
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Posted on: 2009/7/14 21:40
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@Tread
Just shooting in the dark: can someone with Sam to set Cygnix/DISPLAY env var to IP:0 (in env:, not envarc: where IP is your ethernet card's IP address and test for speed of local X11 apps?
Jack
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Re: What is needed for speedup Amicygnix ???
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Posted on: 2009/7/14 21:31
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@broadblues Quote:
broadblues wrote:
Quote:
Comparing speed of X11 to VNC isn't ``fair''. It is like comparing playback of movie on two devices, while 1-st uses framedrop (vnc) and othe struggles to draw every frame (X11).
Hmm but in the linux to linux situation
debianx86_Xclient to debianppc_Xserver
is much faster than
debianx86_Xclient to debianx86_XVNC to debianppc_vncviewer
That could be because XVNC is loading the p3 server in addition to the app.
In case of client on its local xserver displayed via vnc on remote machine there are 2 gotchas: the xserver that is displayed via vnc is totally virtual and can be slowed only by lack of resourses (ram/cpu), but I bet that's not the case, what leaves the other one: it depends on the client. There are clients that will benefit from being transferred over X11 and other clients will suffer. Client that has complex gui will be slower via X11 (see complex kde apps, browser displaying complex pages, any app that has to redraw images) while VNC performance is affected by amount of damage to the display and its settings (low compression will cause higher network traffic) Also, apps that query for fonts will start up slowly on remote X11 servers. Quote:
I don't expect AmiCygnix to go as fast as linux, I just need to to be faster than VNC to be of use to me.
What are the apps you are using? Quote:
But I was under the impresion that DebianPPC on the A1 did not have h
hardware accelaeration enabled? (Or is that only 3d accel that's missing).
Xorg's radeon driver has 2d acceleration, and xorg itself has some extensions to do the job faster (that are not present in AmiCygnix due to older version). Quote:
The important point about the comparison though, is that is not that X11 is faster than AmiCygnix but that X11 is faster than VNC thus a potentially optimised AmiCygnix could also be faster. If a linux native X11 server couldn't keep up with VNC there be little point in trying optimise AmiCygnix (for this purpose).
True, and I'm optimistic Jack
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Re: What is needed for speedup Amicygnix ???
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Posted on: 2009/7/13 22:51
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@broadblues Quote:
broadblues wrote:
@Paul
Ofcourse I can just run TwinVNC under amigaos and not worry about this, but I wonder if some people are finding local apps run at an acceptable speed, perhaps it some kind of network efficiency issue? Just wondering if there is something I could tweak that might improve that aspect.
Here comes somethng that looks like pure advocacly, but I just want to state some relevant facts: Comparing speed of X11 to VNC isn't ``fair''. It is like comparing playback of movie on two devices, while 1-st uses framedrop (vnc) and othe struggles to draw every frame (X11). Comparing AmiCygnix to debian's xserver is unfair too (older totally unaccelerated version vs. one with accelerated 2d driver without extra software layer that exists in AmiCygnix' case. ) Native apps (sylpheed, geany) work fast. Mozilla one the other hand is slower. Gvim (remote) is very reasonable. Some things to allow faster remote display: stop using ssh 's X11 tunneling and use xauthority mechanism (via "xhost +client machnine" on A1 or via "Cygnix:CygnixPPC/etc/X0.hosts" and setting $DISPLAY on client machine). Edit: did anyone tried to experiment with bencharking with screenmode setting+ driver combinations? Jack
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Re: Help me,issues on my Amiga One
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Posted on: 2009/6/15 21:39
#51
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Quite a regular
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@MamePPCA1 Quote:
Can anybody say me what elements of the pocket may I use to mount the cooler? Screws,thermal grease,etc...
Grease is a must. A good one. Arctic silver 5 is a good start. Decent fan (build quality) too (small fans tend to vibrate more than big). Here A1 works well with chipset cooler with fan removed, there's 90mm fan on bracket above the heatsink and good quiet case fan. Works great (and it is hot here). Jack
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"the expression, 'atonal music,' is most unfortunate--it is on a par with calling flying 'the art of not falling,' or swimming 'the art of not drowning.'. A. Schoenberg
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Re: Share folders between AmigaOS4.1 and Windows.
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Posted on: 2009/6/3 20:14
#52
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Quite a regular
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@Thread I think this might prove itself useful (replying to myself on some other thread where the reply would be too blatantly OT), the subject is amiga smbfs by Olaf Barthel: Quote:
With older samba servers it works. The problem is with (at least here) with samba 3.2 on linux. then the stuff gets broken. It's smbfs' fault. Smbclient implements a newer version of protocol and works fine, but it doesn't offers filesystem functionality.
Was wandering in sf.net yesterday and found that the latest smbfs works like charm with Debian's samba 3.3.4 server! No 8.3 capitalized filenames and mount failures! Yipeee! Jack
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"the expression, 'atonal music,' is most unfortunate--it is on a par with calling flying 'the art of not falling,' or swimming 'the art of not drowning.'. A. Schoenberg
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Re: OWB 3.13
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Posted on: 2009/5/17 20:12
#53
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Quite a regular
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@Chris Quote:
Chris wrote:
@Jack
Quote:As it seems, dynamic loading of .so files or related issue haunts python bundled with OS4.x).
It appears as if the dyamic linker is only waiting a certain amount of time, and then passing control to the program before (checking) all the shared objects are loaded.
This isn't what I exerienced here. to reproduce: open owb open cygnix, launch leafpad or sylpheed open os4 python in shell (nothing seems to be busy at that point) sometimes importing somethig in python is needed to trigger the isi Jack
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"the expression, 'atonal music,' is most unfortunate--it is on a par with calling flying 'the art of not falling,' or swimming 'the art of not drowning.'. A. Schoenberg
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Re: OWB 3.13
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Posted on: 2009/5/17 11:29
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Quite a regular
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@Joerg,
The browser gets better and better. And now it is finally main browser here (solved cl(r)ashes with python and X11 stuff by installing a custom build of python, courtesy of Edgar :^D, static python doesn't GRs when X11 apps and OWB are up. As it seems, dynamic loading of .so files or related issue haunts python bundled with OS4.x).
Some things that will improve the experience:
1. as many already requested, download manager (minimalistic one will do, status+cancellation option, doesn't have to be realtime).
2. secure connection indicator
Last note: just noticed minor corruption when doing paste, actually the region where the pasted text goes into sometimes gets refreshed after noticeable delay (5-10 seconds). Found this so far in amigans.net post edit window.
I wish I could donate larger amounts of money,
Huge thanks,
Jack
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"the expression, 'atonal music,' is most unfortunate--it is on a par with calling flying 'the art of not falling,' or swimming 'the art of not drowning.'. A. Schoenberg
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Re: FTPMount feedback
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Posted on: 2009/5/15 17:09
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Quite a regular
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@pvanni Quote:
nice to see you are improving FTPMount, I use it regulary
with my NAS server because smbfs doesn't work and maybe
With older samba servers it works. The problem is with (at least here) with samba 3.2 on linux. then the stuff gets broken. It's smbfs' fault. Smbclient implements a newer version of protocol and works fine, but it doesn't offers filesystem functionality. Quote: I think native NFS client is a must (m68k version from amitcp works fine here, but slow). Interesting if I can dig up source from somewhere... Jack
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"the expression, 'atonal music,' is most unfortunate--it is on a par with calling flying 'the art of not falling,' or swimming 'the art of not drowning.'. A. Schoenberg
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Re: Where are you from?
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Posted on: 2009/5/13 0:13
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@Antique
I think here is the country with least amiga users (0 doesn't count).
I know one (hopefully still active) A1 user and no active Amiga classic users (at least one of them is online).
Jack
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"the expression, 'atonal music,' is most unfortunate--it is on a par with calling flying 'the art of not falling,' or swimming 'the art of not drowning.'. A. Schoenberg
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Re: Justice for speeding Motorcycle
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Posted on: 2009/5/7 22:37
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@Rigo Quote:
That is very true, as most car drivers are oblivious to the fact there may be a bike somewhere close to them. If they hear it, they look twice.
And bicycle riders are pretty much doomed. When I take the road (not everywhere pavements are wide/flat enough), I drive in the middle of the lane. Otherwice cars try to squeeze in instead of propely usung the left lane, Jack
Edited by Jack on 2009/5/7 22:57:54
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"the expression, 'atonal music,' is most unfortunate--it is on a par with calling flying 'the art of not falling,' or swimming 'the art of not drowning.'. A. Schoenberg
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Re: vinced+ssh and more
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Posted on: 2009/5/6 22:52
#58
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@Snuffy No, not vnc for remote desktoping. Vinced is a kind of shell editor. http://aminet.net/package/util/shell/ViNCEdJack
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"the expression, 'atonal music,' is most unfortunate--it is on a par with calling flying 'the art of not falling,' or swimming 'the art of not drowning.'. A. Schoenberg
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Re: vinced+ssh and more
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Posted on: 2009/5/5 21:19
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@Jack
Bump!
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"the expression, 'atonal music,' is most unfortunate--it is on a par with calling flying 'the art of not falling,' or swimming 'the art of not drowning.'. A. Schoenberg
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Re: lpr.device
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Posted on: 2009/4/21 19:40
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@abalaban
or access permissions are mis-configured (unpublished printer?).
I use lpr.device with network printer, so that's doesn't help you.
Did you set the lpr.device into "raw" mode for socket printing? (otherwise it'll fallback to lpr that requires lpd server to be installed).
Jack
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"the expression, 'atonal music,' is most unfortunate--it is on a par with calling flying 'the art of not falling,' or swimming 'the art of not drowning.'. A. Schoenberg
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