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Re: What options for DataBase connectivity do we currently have?
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@Hans

I've been looking at MongoDB wondering whether to try or not myself...

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Re: What options for DataBase connectivity do we currently have?
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@JosDuchIt

Yes, I have looked aat MUIbase and it doesn't work for what I need.

I'm considering the replication and storage of a DB mirrored on AmigaOS4/MorphOS and Linux/Windows/Mac.

I'm actively thinking I'll have to dedicate an RPi or two with browser only access from the Amiga OS

EDIT: touchpanel typing seriously doesn't work for me...

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What options for DataBase connectivity do we currently have?
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I've run into a bundle of items where a database server maybe one answer and was wondering what all the options are?

I've browsed Aminet and OS4depot.net,
I'm after any DB option for programming use in addition to general access.

MySQL and mSQL appear to be the only options.

Is anyone considering MongoDB, CouchDB or anything else not SQL based?

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Re: Strange TimberWolf font
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@Valiant

Are you using UTF8 at all?

TimberWolf when set to UTF8 encoding can display Musical notes as readily as Japanese or Chinese along with Russian and English.

@All: I'm typing this on TimberWolf as the ONLY means I have for displaying test data for my own InputMethod project.

You might find yourselves quite surprised as it is down to the extensions and options as to how fast/stable TimberWolf really is.


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Re: OS4Depot hosting payment 2014-2015
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@orgin

Paypal forces Japanese on me due to location, so I generally find paypal amazon and other regionalize-by-geolocation sites default to severely broken.

This has also had the effect of switching to yen replacing usd/nzd during some purchase attempts.

as for funds received,
it is the currency types in the receivers account as balances which are the accepted list.

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Re: POLL: What graphics card(s) do you currently use on AmigaOS 4.x?
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@Hans

This is true, PC BIOS and OpenFirmware for MacOS,

I used to have a pair of Matrox cards that only differed in the firmware

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Re: Shall we still spend time on AmigaOS or just give up?
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@Atheist

The last system build I did from "clean slate" was a minimum 24 hours (only 45minutes spent actually building the machine into a workable state from parts) with 23 of those hours spent "rushing" the installation of drivers and updates along with mandatory downloads of patches.

The graphics driver disk which came with the graphics card actively toasted the first Installation and required that I re-run the Installation from scratch (completely reformatting to be able to get anything re-installed).

I was lucky as hell the graphics drivers were the first and only thing I had installed after the base DVD of materials had been decompressed and installed.

I have point blank refused to do more than a "base install" for any rush builds since that one (and I still had to wipe and replace the machine one time after that due to the idiot who purchased that system trying to actively install drivers for anything and everything graphics related.

(He was installing Intel GMA and Nvidia CUDA drivers alongside ATI Radeon HD Catalyst drivers... for an S3 chipset old machine seperate from the machine I built.)

so I can understand how that OS can be horrid and despised.

I personally think datacenters should switch to non-Microsoft kit and dump everything Microsoft related.

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Re: Shall we still spend time on AmigaOS or just give up?
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@KimmoK

That is something I want to teach my own son, but the pwoer of the crowd within Japan is extremely powerful

And to make sure he can comprehend things properly I will just have to make sure AmigaOS has Japanese support at least.

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Re: Shall we still spend time on AmigaOS or just give up?
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@Elwood: AmigaOS in any flavour gets scheduled like anything else with personal priorities,

I more consider the question to be "What is the current priorities of everyone?" in order to gauge how much interest there is "now", and would be more considering what is the next step after that.

If the userbase is declining, it is up to the individuals as to when they leave.

It IS a form of gambling (in as much the same way as the stocks/bonds/forex and other markets).

@All: I'm personally open-source developing a project as time permits,
My own interests are served by this and I am just trying to make it easier for others in the process,

If anyone wants to respectfully use my work, all the better, if not then ignore it.

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Re: Arexx calling OpenLibrary/CloseLibrary for each .library call: how to change that?
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@Thellier

Are you wanting to have the Microbe3D library include an ARexx vector or are you launching a seperate program as a process to handle ARexx events?

If you are adding an ARexx vector then you would need some way to Identify a Context for ARexx calls

(I managed to solve this based on use of the return from "FindTask()" in exec.library as an Identification key...

However this only works based on a single context per caller...
Having a seperate "MicrobeRexx" program to connect ARexx may be a workable option.

definitely take a look at AWeb and other source code available applications on aminet and os4depot

@MoonSire

http://code.google.com/p/polymorph/
http://code.google.com/p/perception-ime/

These are my most advanced public projects...
and they also have a couple of wrinkles in embedding a process within the library that lock the library open while running (with the limitation of a race condition at exit at this time from my understanding).

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Re: Arexx calling OpenLibrary/CloseLibrary for each .library call: how to change that?
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@thellier

I have at least two public examples without the ARexx functionality for anyone on an AmigaOS or alike system to read and re-use of that helps?

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Re: Way is there 3 prefs programs for Language settings?
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@All: I agree with Broadblues here in that the Keyboard map is for the physcal device.

My understanding is that different systems have different "default" codesets and the safest option would actually be UTF-8.

At least I am working on UTF-8 strings being translated from the basic ISO-Latin-1 "RAWKEY" and "EXTENDEDRAWKEY" InputEvents.

I am putting my own InputHandler() in front of Intuition but after commodities.

Which actually makes you need to consider the following as always true "The keyboard has no relation to the coding of characters beyond the keymap".

Honestly I don't understand where this "I set Key*map* X therefore I am using Codeset Y" logic comes from.

the Keymap is only specific to the keyboard, character encoding of glyphs after that point can be entirely dissassociated from the keyboard after that point.

my own Perception-IME project is specifically setting up where any given key on a keyboard may have a glyph selection from two, three or more fully independent mappings that have no relation to each other at all.

The only consistency will be what is fed to Intuition once the specific extensions for InputMethodEditing to UTF-8 is worked out.

And I am in two minds as to whether to provide a 7bit safe URLencoded form or go with a more raw binary encoding.

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Re: Way is there 3 prefs programs for Language settings?
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@joerg

All I know is that there is some effort being made at least by myself and possible discussion for the currently active devs.

As for what those discussions and actual code changes involved are...I have no idea as I am not part of that "inner circle"...

But I am definitely sorting out the emission of UTF-8 Characters into the InputEvent stream.

I've also worked out I need to handle *two* forms of encoding and also needing to track whether I am in a requester state or not.

One form will be "raw" encoding and the other will be "URL1" encoding (my own labelling)

take a look in the SDK with regards input.device and then get back to me about UTF-8 input...

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Re: Would Unicode (UTF-8 or UTF-16) improve the situation? Can someone explain in layman terms if and w
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@LiveForIt: replied by PM, as it is outside this threads scope afaik.


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Re: Would Unicode (UTF-8 or UTF-16) improve the situation? Can someone explain in layman terms if and w
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@LiveForIT

I only tried for a rough explanation, thank you for filling in the extra details.

@all: Does anyone else recognise how some parts of UTF8 in AmigaOS are practical while others are impractical due to existing design constriants?

Personally I see display of each glyph by codepoint as practical...

The limitation I am currently trying to work out is how to "enter" a UTF8 valid glyph string without requiring any large number of changes.

"Extended Dead Key" entry seems to be the most valid option to give entry between 1->6 bytes following te encoded form of a UTF8 character.



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Re: Would Unicode (UTF-8 or UTF-16) improve the situation? Can someone explain in layman terms if and w
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@LiveForIt

under "plain text" conditions... the following are true,

Character Codes 0 -> 127 (0x7F hex) are valid in both ANSI/ASCII within ISO Latin 1 encoding which is the AmigaOS default *and* UTF-8 concurrently.

UTF-8 is encoded with the High Bit set for initial modifiers until an Octet(8bit value) contains a High bit that is 0.

the Encoding is actually quite simple as the initial Octet includes a "count" until a clear bit and subsequent bytes have a high bit set with 6 bits of data per octet until a normal 0-127 octet is emitted by the encoder.

I know what I just said may not be clear enough for everyone.

The FileSystems and other elements of the existing OS will actually require an alternate encoding.

there is also a URLencode() form using a prefix escape character.

I am currently playing around with an InputHandler to deaol with UTF-8 encoded strings that are also AmigaOS "safe".

this is actually not as easy as I first considered however I am currently trying to build this as a system pluggable subsystem expanding on the current Locale settings.

I have also seen the ignorance of mixing the keyboard layout with the codepage information.

codepages were specifically for MS-DOS as a workaround for not having UTF-8 or an equivalent (this is also a very large mess in some ways based on who you ask).

I have also sent S.Solie a Japanese keyboard (paid for from my own pocket) which has allowed some step towards a more capable OS for actually making all this work.

I'm still waiting to hear back as to any final decision made with regards the 4 extra keymappings required for IME support.

Language-Cycle, Mode-Cycle, Mode-Exclusion, Mode-Release are the four functions to deal with an overlayed keymap setup.

I also have a *functional* layout for my Japanese keyboard (used to write this message)

Follow the video link in my first edit to see the keyboard and this message partially written...
EDIT[1]:Here

EDIT2: I've written this in the middle of a headache while sick... so it will be somewhat braindump'ish in nature...
But until I have a migraine or something else incapacitating...I don't get any breaks for anything.

Until later...


Edited by Belxjander on 2014/3/5 0:59:15
Edited by Belxjander on 2014/3/5 1:20:40
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Re: New filesysbox filesystem port being worked on
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BoxNetFileSystem, Ext3FileSystem, FileSysBox.Library,
What else would be requested for the "Requested"/"Developing"/"Testing"/"Release" lists ?

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Re: GCC is bit old, I think we need a new one.
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@Raziel

I would personally look at LLVM and clang and see what needs to be done there...

Would that at all be workable?

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Re: New filesysbox filesystem port being worked on
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@salass00

I am definitely interested in this...

I have at least 2 things (1 I am actively working on...) needing something such as this.

If I am permitted to test or otherwise possibly make developer materials ?

@all

Being "lucky" to live in Japan...the network speeds here are generally assured to be at least 10->50Mbit bidirectional on the VDSL links and the FTTH links are rated for 100->200MBit down and 10->20MBit up...

I also have a "box.net" account and would love to see other things such as "FTP:" updated to reflect the use of this as well.

but one piece at a time is definitely a great start.

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Re: Converting catalog in UTF-8 code
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Is there any form of existing "UTF8" header for catalogs?

When I begin expanding beyond code into having Japanese strings I will be needing to deal with escape sequencing *everything*.

There will also be some mixed strings due to that Japanese requires English remain a "side by side"...with the option of any "extended roman" characters are also to be available.

as for right now I am trying to work out some form of comrpessed phonetic format database to match off with the Japanese symbols so that I can properly list the relevant Kanji for any given translation options.

I will also need to reconsider how to use the Jim Breen dictionary database for translation purposes as well.

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