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Re: Icon Wunschkonzert - Part 3
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@abalaban

Yout right It is part of the January release!
Funny that I did exactly the same icon again.

Anyway, I have added a drawer icon!

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Re: Icon Wunschkonzert - Part 3
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Just one left...

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Re: Icon Wunschkonzert - Part 3
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@IamSONIC

A Documents folder would be nice.


I will do a new icon for the next release of Push4Dock on which I will start right after the release of the "Wunschkonzert" icons. Meanwhile please have a look at the MUI drawer of your WB and you will find a Documents drawer

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Re: Icon Wunschkonzert - Part 3
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@nubechecorre

Very nice idea! But plain images will fit better - I put them on the AISS todo-list.

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Icon Wunschkonzert - Part 3 - DONE!
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Think it is time for a new Icon Wunschkonzert for icons in the new style.

Same rules as for the 1st and 2nd round:

1) Only one request per member
2) Not any kind of games please
3) Just apps that run under AmigaOS4
4) No general icons collections

I will try to do them asap!


To-Do-List (max. 20)

1) BarTender - by Vailant - DONE
2) Tools Disk - by Raziel
3) UltraConv - by gurus2000 - DONE
4) GUI4CLI - by JosDuchIt - DONE
5) SRec - by Samo79 - DONE
6) FinalWriter - by Lemen -DONE
7) Pagestream - by Michael Merkel - DONE
8) Downloads Folder - by Amigo1 - DONE
9) ClassAction - by cha05e90 - DONE
10) CloseAllDrawers.rexx - by PEB - DONE
11) ADRipper Drawer - by Murakami - DONE
12) Amitradecenter - by acefnq - DONE
13) MPlayer-GUI - by ZeroG - DONE
14) Microdot-II - by Chris -DONE
15) MultiRen - by busytech
16) CompareDir - by abalaban - DONE
17) Movies Drawer - by IamSONIC
18) AmiTransformator - by TSK - DONE
19) AllKeys - by Daniel - DONE -DONE
20) LodePaint - by DAX - DONE

Special: Push4Dock (based on SmartButton.docky)


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Re: Amiga User Germany
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@tommysammy

...but you know, that it isn't a real picture of AmigaPapst in his avatar? Right?

Welcome to Amigans.net!

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Re: SimplePlay facelift
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@jahc

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jahc wrote:
@Mason

And thank you for making it! It's such a useful resource. Especially when the best thing I can draw myself is tiny square boxes!


In case that means that the image on your homepage is authentic, I have to say: Congratulations! Not everybody has the body to wear a nightie like this!

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Re: Ken's Icons 2009!
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@klesterjr

Very nice and inspiring artwork! I still like the lean, clean look of the icons, witch makes them easy to identify.
I am looking forward to see your big icons.

Again, great work!

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Re: SimplePlay facelift
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@jahc

Looks nice!
Thanks for using AISS!

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Re: Diropus Magellen II menus
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@orgin

I haven't a classic running too, but I found the documentation of Magellan for Windows.

Link

Maybe it will help.

BUMP!

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Re: Changing icons?
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@Chris

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Do you have a MicroSD card icon kicking around anywhere, and if not can you add it to your to-do list please?


Yes!

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Re: Changing icons?
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@nbache

If you mean something like this... I will think about it

Resized Image

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Re: Changing icons?
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@nbache

I have to say, that I didn't know this feature.
Sounds very nice!

Time to make some additional icons

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Re: new icons ?
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@saimo

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The new icons are mainly allready a result of user suggestions.

I hope this doesn't mean that no other suggestion can be made
So, here's one that crossed my mind right now: drop shadows altogether. They add little (if anything at all) and not having them not only saves you lots of work with the alphachannel of the normal state, but also makes it a lot easier to add the glow.

Suggestions are allways welcome! Even as this round is closed
Drop shaddows are more important than you might think as they give the icon the 3rd dimention. As for shadows, glow effects and alpha channels: With most state of the art paint programs it is quite easy to add them with a handfull of mouseclicks!

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If you have a big icon with much details it will look very ugly if you scale it down. I have made several test which allways lead to the same results...

Having too many details in icons is a mistake in first place: icons are supposed to be symbols immediately readable by the eye that convey few but clear pieces information; moreover, no matter the technique utilized (multi-size bitmaps, vectors, whatever) they will never look good at a small scale.
Anyway, I'm curious... could you show an example of icon that does not look bad when scaled down?

Your right, but it is not allways possible to make thing that easy. A good example are the Commodities in general as their function is not easy to visualize in a simple way. There several thesis about the recognition of icons. I like the one which says that just the colour and the general form of the icon is important, but on the other hand it is rather boring to paint red, green, blue, yellow and pink triangels, rectangles and circles
You could generate a example by yourself by having a look at the Workbench preferences. Just play with size definitions of the list mode and have a look at the results. Ok, I have to say that the current scaling algorithm of OS4.1 is simple and the icons are not optimized for scaling, but you just asked for a bad result.
Windows and even OS X are using icons in different sizes and just scaling between this sizes if needed.
Please have a look at the links I posted earlier in this thread.


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Ahhh, now I understand and I have to agree! From this point of view it is of course nice to have such a feature. But it is also a little hell for the icon artist as he has to guess how any icon will look with any effect.

Oh, well, it's the other way around: it's the effect that has to be chosen to suit as many types of graphics as possible. Then, once the effect (or effects, if the system is designed to support more than 1) is set in stone, artists also have the required information to draw effective icons.
Just to make an example, if the glow we are used to was calculated on the fly, I guess no amigan would have a problem with it

Your talking of one effect, so it would be ok, but that wouldn't be a real benefit as we allready have one effect provided by the icon.

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Re: new icons ?
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@saimo

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1. The visualisation used for the new icons is my own individual style - love it or hate it, but I will hardly change it. I know that tastes are different but I also know that another well know artist in the Amiga community is working on an alternative set.

See, I wasn't talking about tastes. Of course you are the one to decide how your icons look
I only suggested to reduce the usage of gradients because that lessens the contrast (and thus icons are harder to read): that is not a matter of preferences.
You're absolutely free to accept/reject such suggestion.

The new icons are mainly allready a result of user suggestions.

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2. The new icon size is, as Ken allready mentioned, a tribute to the bigger screen resolutions available. As I said earlier: Having scaleable icons is not a solution - the system must also be prepared to use different sizes of icons.

Although I didn't comment on the subject until now, I think that using nicely interpolated icons for downscaling gives good results (but source icons must be big - say, 128x128 - of course).

If you have a big icon with much details it will look very ugly if you scale it down. I have made several test which allways lead to the same results...

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- it is easier to paint icons with the effect added.

I don't agree: pre-painted alternate states double the work to anybody who wants to draw an icon (and you are one of those who are most affected by this ) and leads to inconsistent look, because anybody will draw the icons the way he/she prefers/can (just as an example: when I created the icons for BOH, I tried to stay consistent with the usual glow look, but I couldn't make it exactly like yours or others').


Ahhh, now I understand and I have to agree! From this point of view it is of course nice to have such a feature. But it is also a little hell for the icon artist as he has to guess how any icon will look with any effect.

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Re: new icons ?
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@MichaelMerkel

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still the target at one point should be really resizeable icons (= vector ones). isn't vista and w7 using those?


Windows and even OS X are still not using a vector format for icons, but they support different sizes.

Microsoft Vista Icons or Wikipedia

Apple OS X Icons or Wikipedia

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Re: new icons ?
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@saimo

If you will ask five people about icon styles you will get seven opinions.

1. The visualisation used for the new icons is my own individual style - love it or hate it, but I will hardly change it. I know that tastes are different but I also know that another well know artist in the Amiga community is working on an alternative set.

2. The new icon size is, as Ken allready mentioned, a tribute to the bigger screen resolutions available. As I said earlier: Having scaleable icons is not a solution - the system must also be prepared to use different sizes of icons.

3. Having system generated effects for icons is a nice feature, but you have to make shure it works in an acceptable way. There many, many aspects that have to be considered before implementing such a feature in a operating system and of course much work for the developers - it is easier to paint icons with the effect added.

4. Different icon states is a nice to have if the state of the icon is relevant (on/off) but when it comes to toolbar images my opinion is: Let the developer decide what is best. Reaction uses frames for toolbars that indicate the state and even as it is still just a wink when you press the button.

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Re: Changing icons?
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@tommo1975

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I'm in the middle of customising my Amiga with new icons etc. and am having great fun doing so, however for the life of me I cannot find where I would change the icon displayed when a USB memory stick or a DVD is put in, or change the icons for JPEGS or MP3's etc.


You have to change the default icons:

workbench:prefs/env-arc/sys/

For the USB memory stick I would suggest to change the disk icon of the stick (via Information from the icons menu) or change the def_disk icon in the def_icons directory but then all new disks/media will displayed with this icon.

Hope this will help!

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Re: new icons ?
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@unimo

New OS4.1 style...

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Re: smartbutton docky from openamiga.org
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@centaurz

Upsi, just forget to to say: Well done!!!

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