@orgin

> How much effort would it take to get the X11 server to run in windowed mode? (open X-windows on the wb)

Something between very difficult and impossible. I think we have to wait for a
GTK wrapper library, which uses a AmigaOS native GUI.

@acefnq & virgola

Whow! Thank you very much! It makes me happy, that you like my work.
Hope, that my new packages will fulfill your expectations.
100 dancing bananas for you

@acefnq

> I just fired Inkscape up under debian Stable/A1 and it is a nice program indeed. Some extensions were not implemented,
> so a warning gave me but it also said the program will fubction as normal. No idea what those extensions were though. Is
> there any way to find out in case they may be the issues facing an AOS4 port?

The main problem is this stange gc library mentionen above. The extensions / plugins are an other, but should be
solveable.

> PS when when when when???? (release) -:)

I hoped to release it this weekend, but I think it will be next weekend. Found some little issues and added a nice
tool to the package. Also I'm working on a documentation. And I need some more tests...
And a little vacation

@afxgroup

> Strange Edgar, because seems already ported for AmigaOS
> http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Hans_Boehm/gc/gc_source/gc.tar.gz
> http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Hans_Boehm/gc/
>there is an amigaos platform file into the code

Yes I saw this. I can't remember where the problem was. Some assumtions about
OS internal things were made and I think it needs ixemul. But you can have a look
at it if you like. This would solve the biggest problem for porting inkscape.

@yak

> I'm not much into Linux programming. By dynamic linking you mean .so library files or are they using ELF files with symbol names?

Yes, I mean the .so files. To be precise the functions of the dynamic link interface like dlopen(), dlsym() ...

> And what are you doing to make it work?

The only solution (for me) is to link the modules statically to the program binary. While porting imlib2 - a image library,
which uses dynamic linking for it's loaders and filters - I've found an easy way to handle this. I think I will use this method
to implement some other similar module techniques.

But there is also pipe() / fork(). If module support is implemented by using these functions, I have to reimplement it with
AmigaDOS functions (If possible).

CygnusEd

@virgola

> Please, please port inkscape!!

Had a look at inkscape some time ago. Unfortunalety it uses a library, that can't be ported to AmigaOS 4
(in my opinion): The boehm garbage collector library. After a look at the sources I must say, that this is
the badest hack I've ever seen - bah!

Sorry.

CygnusEd

@afxgroup

> yes, i think so. that's because in the past i've port all of fontforge except the GTK gui. so now that we have also GTK2 libraries, should be simply

Had a look at the sources, but I couldn't find a GTK GUI, only a X11 GUI. It's version 20061220 downloaded at sourceforge.
Or is it the wrong program?

@acefnq

> Some of the later software offerings such as Amaya don't seem to want to work under Final,
> even with a reinstall but Gimp etc is worth a play around with even if trying to understand the
> Unix like dir/file structures.

Amaya is working here without problems (Last published package). Please try to launch it from a shell to
see possible error messages.

@ikir

Please try my next package, but the I did not make much changes to the X server. If it still does not work,
you can contact me by mail.

CygnusEd

@LiveForIt

> A nice port of Gaim maybe.

Gaim needs GTK 2.10, but at the moment I only have GTK 2.6.9

But @all: Suggestions for ports are always welcome. But as I've said
above, it should depend on < GTK 2.6

CygnusEd

@yak

> @cygnused

> I also have a question to you. How hard is it to port such big apps like AbiWord or Gimp to OS4 and your X11 server?
> Do you use all the libraries and packages ported already by others or you have to compile your own? As a programmer,
> I'm looking for some technical details

For the first version of Abiword or Gimp I needed about one day, but a lot of the needed libs were already compiled.
In most cases the plugin system is not working because of the missing fork() or dynamic linking. This takes much longer
to port.
I only use my own compiled libs. I had a lot of problems with other libs, some crashed, some didn't
work together with Cygnix. On the other hand my libs mostly don't work without Cygnix. Because of this,
there are some issues in combination with the OS4 SDK.

CygnusEd

@Lio

> abiword ?
> is this a pre annoucement ?
> better to be cautious
> Anyway, thats great (pre) news !!!

A kind of that. I hope I can publish a fully functional program


Here some additional shots:

Abiword (http://www.abisource.com):



Some loaded Word documents.
Adding a table...





Gimp 2.2.13 (http://gimp.org):










(Hmm - how can I do a newline (<br>) ?)

Stay tuned

CygnusEd