Here is the log from AmiUpdate....


AmiUpdate 2.49 (02.01.2022) Part of the AmiUpdate suite

Log opened on 23-6-2023 at 10:36:02

10:36:02 Performing online version check...

10:36:02 Trying to connect to: amiupdate.codebench.co.uk on port: 80

10:37:17 Failed

10:37:17 Online version check completed.

10:37:17 Program started

10:37:17 Waiting for user input...

10:37:24 Starting uniconify...

10:37:25 Opening window...

10:38:49 Started system scan

10:38:49 Found host machine as: X5020

10:38:49 Synchronising with server: 'www.amiupdate.net'...

10:38:49 Trying to connect to: www.amiupdate.net on port: 80

10:38:49 Connected

10:38:49 Redirection required, following link....

10:38:49 Trying to connect to: codebench.co.uk on port: 80

10:38:49 Connected

10:38:49 Failed to get filesize from header, Content-Length: tag missing

10:38:49 Trying to connect to: codebench.co.uk on port: 80

10:38:49 Connected

10:38:50 Synchronisation successful

10:38:51 Update "libboostyGfxV2" has a listed requirement with an invalid syntax (|), checking aborted
10:38:52 Synchronising with server: 'update.amigaos.net'...

10:38:52 Trying to connect to: www2.hyperion-entertainment.com on port: 80

10:38:52 Connected

10:38:52 Prompting user for login details...

10:39:14 Trying to connect to: www2.hyperion-entertainment.com on port: 80

10:39:14 Connected

10:39:14 HTTPFetch error: This user is forbidden to access this resource

10:39:14 Scan completed

Hello!

It seems I have a problem with AmiUpdate not listing any AmigaOS related updates. It only list 3rd Party things like AmiSSL and IBrowse. I've been talking to people on the Amigans Discord about it, but it seems they are as puzzled as I am.

Apparently I have an older version of newlib.library (53.62) and others in the Amigans Discord confirmed that they see an update to that in AmiUpdate.

I do not. :(

I have registered my copy of AmigaOS 4.1 (AmigaONE X5000) at Hyperion (it is listed as a registered product). There is a popup to use a username / password and when I use my username / password there is no difference. I have noticed that it is this server that wants a username / password.

update.amigaos.net

If it is not my registered username & password that I use with Hyperion, what should I use?

Always nice to see these roundups!!! Thank you so much for your hard work making these!

@K-L

Why? Aren't there a lot of Amiga users that dual boot MorphOS and AmigaOS on their PPC Amiga Computers?

Thanks for the roundup! Always look forward to them at the end of the month!

70021

Sadly no screenshot since I do not have any URL where I can share any images.

EDIT: Lets try this..https://postimg.cc/f3JL5RGN

Thanks a lot for these roundups.. Keep up the awesome work!

@trixie

I agree with the feedback regarding zooming and you seem to be on the same page.

That said, I think your priorities are in line with what users wants, such as recording and more effects/tools (Normalize, Noise Gate etc... effects as you wrote).

I can live with the zoom working the way it does now.

Keep up the great work!

Thanks for doing these! Keep up the great work with these!

@Tuskagee

I had this issue as well on my X5000 with RX550. However, it was connected to my capture card. Once I plugged it directly to the monitor it worked.

Maybe it tries to open on an unsupported screenmode? (when it comes to my capture card, certain software doesn't run properly because the capture card does not support all modes that the monitor does).

What you can try to do is to edit the file called: F2_res.ini

Find these lines:

; Set the Fullscreen resolution here.
SCR_WIDTH=800
SCR_HEIGHT=600

And type in a a width and height you know your monitor supports. If that doesn't work, try the res above but find this line:

; Set WINDOWED=1 to enable windowed mode.
WINDOWED=1

and make sure you set WINDOWED=1 which should open the game in a window on your Workbench.

Hope this helps!

@sailor

I agree... but, and this is what I stated earlier in this thread. If you want to buy an AmigaONE X5000/020 from GGS-Data... contact Gunne (the owner of that company) and verify it is in stock, because when I ordered, it was listed in stock, but it was not in stock.

@PixelHi

My Sam460 is not that great compapared to my AmigaONE X5000. The onboard SATA is somewhere between 10-20 times faster than the PCI Sata controller you are forced to use on the Sam460.

That said, and since you brought it up. Why even use Amiga today if other solutions can be faster and more effective?

I am pretty sure that my AMD Ryzen Threadripper 3990X with an NVidia 3070Ti TUF Gaming Overclocked will run circles around your abysmal PC.

This is beside the point though...

My question to you is... Why do you want to use an Amiga today? You have perfectly made a point that there is no point, for you, to use an Amiga. So... why are you even here?

This is an honest question.

EDIT: You are talking about floppies. Why are you not using a classic Amiga system instead? Modern PCs are not shipped with floppy drives since 10+ years back. Why should a next gen Amiga system do that? AmigaNG is not "retro" the way you think it should be.

Not sure GGS-Data have them in stock though. When I ordered mine, it was listed "in stock" but he replied that he didn't have it in stock. He then went out to his contacts and after a month, he got hold of a new (as in not previously used) motherboard for me.

I still have the invoice and it is dated 2022-03-12. So in roughly one month, I have been an owner of an AmigaONE X5000/020 for one year. :)

@AmigaOldskooler

Thanks! I've been looking for this one and didn't find it... Now I found it!

Keep this up, you are doing a great job making things more understandable when it comes to what is going on within Next Gen Amiga scene. :)

@Tuvok

That is not emulating an 060 though. You have to turn off JIT in order to emulate the speed.

It is interesting though that your result in FS-UAE on your M2 Mac can render this in 2 seconds. Are you sure you loaded the Raytrace.lws from the Benchmark folder?

On my Threadripper 3990X (64 cores / 128 threads) it takes 45 seconds when using WinUAE emulating a 68060 with JIT enabled. I doubt that an M2 processor is more than 40 times faster, even on a singlethreaded process which emulation of AmigaOS is.

If I open this scene up in LightWave 2020.0.3 (PC version), it renders in 1.9 seconds, but that is because it uses all cores/threads. If I halve the resolution, per Q:s test, it renders in 0.6 seconds. :D

@328gts

I am using Lightwave AW (LW5.0 release version), which should be the same version Q uses on his real Amiga computers. Also, rendering via Screamernet is always faster than rendering within the software. For that reason we should follow Q:s steps in order to make a similar comparsion, including rendering from within the software.

Unless Q does a render via ScreamerNet, for this particular test with the settings he provided, I do not see the point in doing so because it would be moving the goalpost.

Also, I wonder if you are quoting the correct scene that Walkero is rendering, since he is rendering all benchmark scenes? From Walkeros video it takes 10m 49s for the Raytracing scene to render in the original setup, which is 2x resolution, 4x more pixles to render compared to Q:s setup.

When I open LW and render the Raytrace scene without any changes, it takes 13m 46s to render on my machine. I very much doubt that the X1000 would render the same scene, even when using ScreamerNet in 1m 39s.

:)

EDIT: The difference from my result and Walkeros result regarding the same scene... him rendering via ScreamerNet and I render within the software is quite understandable, since LW never had any hardware acceleration regarding displaying data on screen while also showing the render progress in a black and white render, so the CPU will have to deal with all the displays when rendering in the software compared to rendering with ScreamerNet in Shell

EDIT2: I think Walkero is using an X5000/ 040, which is clocked at 2,2 GHz while my machine is the 020, clocked at 1995MHz rounded up to 2 GHz.

@328gts

I do not use shell rendering...

Start LW, load benchmark scene and adjust the settings per Q:s instructions.

When you hit F9, you will get a Grim Reaper... just click on more and then click on ignore DSI errors

Once you do that, you will go back to the black screen with some text. Once the render is complete, you will see a very buggy looking image. LMB click and you will be returned to the black screen with text. There you can see the rendertime.

Make sure you do a second F9 render after the first, because I think the DSI error on the very first render might add some extra time.

I will suggest that you use either ModePro or NewMode to promote Layout to a proper screenmode. I use NewMode and promote Layout to a 720x480x8 screen.

With the settings Q provided, my AmigaONE X5000 renders this in 3m 27s.

@Chris

You are correct... it had to do with sound. Since the RF500 modulator has an input for it, it also means that whatever source actually works...

If you look at the picture I posted, you can see an audio mixerboard there. So I hooked up both Amigas audio to the mixerboard + a "boombox" with CD and Radio capabilities. This meant that I could then feed the output from the mixerboard to the audio input of the A500 RF Modulator, and then the studends could listen to Swedish National Radio instead of some random Amiga music.

But since the Amiga was connected to the mixerboard as well, certain audio events from the Scala script was heard as well as the Swedish National Radio.

There was actually a postbox bellow where the tv was hanging where students could request things, usually it was birthday congratulations where they had a foto of the student and some text they wanted to be displayed. We had a PC about 3 meters from where my Amigas were and it had a colour scanner, so it was quite easy to make a nice Scala page with the foto and text.

Needles to say, the info-channel became quite popular.

A couple of years after I left they tried to revive the info-channel with PC machines and it wasn't as good as what I created with Scala (I do not think Scala had been ported over to PC at that time).

It was kind of interesting to see how something quite trivial on an Amiga was hard to do on a PC back then when it came to video signals.

@ddni

No. :)