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Re: Necessary projects: (e.g. WxWidgets)
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@Fab

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C++ is by definition more or equally cryptic than C since it's a superset of C

Sorry, I can't refrain from biting on this one.

If a language gives you more tools to select from for expressing a given algorithm, it will also increase your chances of expressing that algorithm less cryptically, generally speaking of course.

And specifically for C and C++, that's also my personal experience.

You may say that C++ is a more complicated language to learn than C, because it is a superset of C, but once you have learnt it (and use it as intended), the resulting code should have a good chance of being less cryptic than it would have been in C.

Best regards,

Niels
(who, after having used C++ for years, currently finds himself quite content with C#, especially after it got "generics" which makes him miss STL less )

(BTW, C# also has reference parameters, but requires the usage of the keyword ref both with the formal argument and the actual one. I quite like that as a compromise.)

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Re: OWB 2.16 (2.17 up)
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@joerg

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joerg wrote:
@nbache

Since you don't specify any fonts on your homepage the default fonts of the browers are used, in OWB 2.16 I changed them from the MicroSoft core fonts to the DejaVu fonts included in AmigaOS 4.1. IMHO most pages look better that way, for example http://utilitybase.com/

Unfortunately I can't get it right using the AmigaOS font engine no matter what I try, if it wouldn't be unusable slow for users who have FONTS:_TrueType on a FFS partition I would switch back to libfreetype instead.

To get the same as in OWB <= 2.15 with your main page use the following [...]

Yeah, I could do one of those -- but I want the page to be as simple and non-intruding as possible, and have it usable also in IBrowse. So I prefer to not dictate things like fonts unless absolutely necessary, and also to avoid using CSS.

Anyway, I don't have a problem with the default font having changed (although apparently IE and FF both use Times New Roman as their default font, so many visitors might expect that as the "least intruding" choice). It's the change in rendered size in OWB that puzzles me. I haven't made any exact measurements, but it really looks very much bigger than before (and also bigger than what is seen by default in one of the above mentioned browsers).

Is that what you are referring to above with "I can't get it right using the AmigaOS font engine"? Do the DejaVu fonts render bigger than they should under AmigaOS? If so, can't you just compensate by using a smaller pitch as the basis for calculating the final size to render? Or could I compensate myself with the XDPI/YDPI tooltypes? If so, what do I need to know about their function?


Best regards,

Niels

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Re: OWB 2.16 (2.17 up)
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Is it just me, or does text render bigger now than before? I assume it could be adjusted with the XDPI and YDPI tooltypes, but I'd like to know if it is "bug or feature" before experimenting with those.

One example where it is very obvious to me is my own site, http://nbache.dk/

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Niels

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Re: Auto Install scripts
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@Swoop
Specifically for diskimage_device, it looks as if the autoinstall script is merely a wrapper around a traditional Installer script.

You should be able to use the script even without AmiUpdate (should you so desire), provided you have the Installer (the one delivered with the OS) somewhere in your path and with the E bit set; the standard location is in SYS:Utilities.

The AutoInstall script itself should of course be readable (R bit set), then you can Execute it. If you have also the E and S bits set, you should be able to just invoke it by name only.

(This is from looking at the 52.39 archive, which I happened to have here; I haven't checked whether that is the current one on OS4Depot).

Many other AmiUpdatable applications use the CopyStore command in their scripts, which comes with AmiUpdate, so they will need AmiUpdate installed.


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Niels

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Re: Ram for AmigaOne XE
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@Raziel

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Raziel wrote:

[...]

MemoryTen
Although i never bought from them ...

[...]

That's a very interesting price indeed .

So, did anyone actually buy memory from MemoryTen? How was your experience? And did the RAM work in your A1?

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Niels

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Re: Sam440ep and 8" touchscreen - no display
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@Stedy

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Stedy wrote:
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[...]

Unless you have a VGA connector on your graphics card, I can not see a solution.

Ian

The Sam board has a header (J25) which can provide a VGA signal. The pinout is documented in the manual.


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Niels

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Re: OS4.1 bugs
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@Chris

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Chris wrote:
@LiveForIt

No, that would match things like XABQ. I'm trying to do exactly what I typed and abalaban has described. Try it on AmigaOS prior to OS4 and you'll see it working as it should.

Also, LiveForIt, try reading up on the weird and wonderful world of AmigaOS pattern matching. In daily use, many tend to just use the "#?" combination as if it was exactly equivalent to the "*" on other platforms and just a more long-winded way of writing it. This is only a small part of the story.

The "#" means something like "zero or more occurrences of the following element", and the "?" means "exactly one arbitrary character". Therefore, the often used combination, "#?", means "zero or more occurrences of exactly one arbitrary character", or more simply put, "nothing or anything" -- which also just happens to be what the "*" means in other OSes.

Back to "#(AB|BA)": This means "zero or more occurrences of the element (AB|BA)". This is one element because of the parenthesis, and the meaning of the element of course is either "AB" or "BA". So the whole pattern should match any number (zero or more) of consecutive character pairs, where each of them is either "AB" or "BA".

Any clearer now?


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Niels

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Re: OS4.1 bugs
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@Kotler

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Kotler wrote:

[...]

Drag&Drop in Workbench doesn't work with Composition ENgine
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I can confirm this, D&D will NOT work with the
Composition Engine, the D&D aborts very rapidly.
If I switch off the Comp. Eng., D&D works
perfectly.

This has been discussed before (hmm, maybe not here, but at least over there). Something is locking (updating) the WB screen at regular intervals for too long each time, causing the D&D operation to time out and terminate. In my case it was DOpus 4, iconified to the little title bar with the clock, showing seconds. When I changed DOpus to iconify to a "real" appicon instead and found another way to have an onscreen time display (LimpidClock), the problem was gone.

Best regards,

Niels

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Re: OWB 2.15
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@Kicko

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Kicko wrote:

[...]

When i start OWB it asks me for..
Please insert volume file: in any drive. If i press cancel then it goes to my page. With previous version it didnt asks me for that volume. Do i use wrong way to load my page from my partition ? This is the link i use.

file:///dh1/html/private/links.html

Aren't you supposed to have a servername in there as well? I.e. something like file://localhost/dh1 ... ?

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Niels

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Re: OWB 2.11 !!
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@Flinx
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Flinx wrote:
@nbache
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nbache wrote:
- A requester asking me if I really want to quit.

Please not. (We really need a new Style Guide.)
Amiga windows close always immediately when you click on the close gadget. Requesters asking if you want to quit are appropriate when a program still has not yet saved documents open. From there some programmers seem to have the idea to ask always in return of the close gadget.
I find this behaviour annoying. (And, because you will be used to click on yes without much thinking, it will devalue the requester where is really danger of data loss.)

You find it annnoying. I, as explained earlier, find it indispensable. And of course it should be user selectable whether it should be shown or not, just like in IBrowse (so much for your "always" above).

I agree with you that e.g. text editors should base the decision to show a confirmation requester on whether anything may be lost (even this is often a user-settable option). A browser is a different beast; when you browse, you usually don't create a document or other work which needs to be saved. What you do create, though, is your history of visited pages, to which you can return via the back button (in the current OWB even exclusively via the back button, as there is no history or saved auto-completion buffer or anything). And this is sometimes just as irritating to lose when you accidentally quit prematurely as a document in a text editor.

So to conclude, I still say an optional quit confirmation requester is sorely missed.


Best regards,

Niels

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Re: OWB 2.11 !!
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@HammerD

The two things I currently miss the most are:

- Bookmarks
- A requester asking me if I really want to quit. Yes, I know, sounds silly. But I'm used to having it in IBrowse, and I can't begin to count the number of times I've accidentally hit the close gadget instead of the back arrow.

Best regards,

Niels

P.S.

- file type handling, e.g. for starting AmiPDF for a PDF file etc.

(The three things I currently miss the most ... aaarrghhh! Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!)


Edited by nbache on 2008/9/24 0:11:04
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Re: OS4.1 features ?
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@TSK

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TSK wrote:
@nbache

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Why? Is there anything wrong with it?

No. I was thinking opposite.

Okay, so you're saying you'd be happy to know they kept the brilliant task scheduler from 4.0? In that case, yes, I believe you can safely be happy .

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Niels

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Re: OS4.1 questions and strange things
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@Skov

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Skov wrote:
@Chris

Great - I will probably invest in one of those come november!

You still just use roadshow for setting it all up, then?


Be aware that you can only use WEP, not WPA or WPA-PSK or whatever, with these cards (or rather with this platform/OS). I personally don't feel safe downgrading our WiFi LAN in this respect (my wife runs her XP laptop and another older Win2k machine on it with WPA), so I have decided to hold off on deploying the card I bought already a few years ago.

I may be paranoid, of course (which doesn't mean they're not out to get me )


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Niels

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Re: OS4.1 features ?
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@TSK

As far as I have heard, it's the same one.

Why? Is there anything wrong with it?

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Niels

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Re: 5 New Themes
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@Rogue

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Rogue wrote:
[...] will come in an update, plus a few extra features like tintable bitmaps (so that the bitmaps you use can be re-colored on-the-fly to adjust to different color schemes).

Yesss! Ohh, yes, beautiful . Then I can get back my preferred bright boing-ball red borders instead of those boring pale blue ones, without having to cook up my own recoloured version of the bitmap.

Best regards,

Niels

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 - network problems
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@Dirk-B

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Dirk-B wrote:
@nbache

No i did not replace those, i will try it.

...

Ok, replaced those files, but the same result.

Well, then I'm out of ideas, sorry.

You might want to find someone in your area who can help you on-site or something, there's got to be some setting or file somewhere you have accidentally screwed up, but I can't guess what it could be without actually sitting next to the machine and your LAN and going through it all systematically.

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Niels

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 - network problems
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@Dirk-B

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Dirk-B wrote:
Ok, i have tried again in OS4.0 to make a static connection and
i succeeded, this is what my interface is:

device=eth3com.device
hardwaretype=Ethernet
address=192.168.2.101
netmask=255.255.255.0
mtu=0

The ping command worked also.


I am now again in OS4.1 and have connected with the same
settings, but again afther a few seconds my system hangs,
again true the use of the eth3com.device.

Just to make sure: Did you copy also all files from Devs:Internet over from 4.0 to 4.1 (files like groups, hosts, name_resolution, networks, ...), as well as the Devs:NetInterfaces/ contents? If it works under 4.0, and all files storing that setup are copied to 4.1, I can see no reasone for it not to work there also. I did exactly that numerous times during the test phase, on two different A1s.


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Niels

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 - network problems
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@Dirk-B

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Dirk-B wrote:
I was looking for the Roadshow program but i could not
find it, instead i found in c/ roadshowcontrol and in
internet/ dialer. But both these have the same date from
2006 so they have not changed.

Are there any other programs related to roadshow?

Roadshow is just the collective name for all the modules making up or related to the TCP/IP stack. The main part of it is implemented in bsdsocket.library, which (unlike in Miami or AmiTCP/Genesis, where it s created on the fly) is a "real" disk-based library living in LIBS:. I believe it did change between 4.0 July update and 4.1, but I wouldn't expect that to create this sort of problems.

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Update:

Aha, i found the file ethernet_devices.db that was new
and much more smaller then the old one. I replaced it,
tried the connection again, but sadly it was not working. :(

That shouldn't have much significance. It is just a list of some known network card types and their features, like the number of devices on the unit. The only effect of that is to fill in some defaults when using the wizard and/or prefs program, AFAIK.

And the reason the new one is smaller? Look at the contents of the old one; it seems all the devices mentioned in there are from the ancient past where only classic hardware existed. It has stuff like the Ariadne and the X-Surf etc. And the version tag is dated in 2003 ...

The new one seems to mention only some devices likely to be used on an A1 -- which incidentally is the only one OS 4.1 is relevant for at this time.

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Niels

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Re: OS4.1 Missing instructions
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@Swoop

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Swoop wrote:
@ZeroG

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The quickstart guide tells you to set the device-name in the MTB to SWAP: , not the volume-name that you can change with WB.
Thanks for that. Looking at page 14 of the quickstart guide, under swap partition characteristics, it say's Name: SWAP,

Yes, but above that, it says "The SWAP partition should have the following characteristics:", and all the other characteristics are also only settable in Media Toolbox, so it should be logical to look for a Name: field also in Media Toolbox for this. But I agree it could probably have been made just that little bit more obvious.

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but I can see from page 22 that you are correct, and I need to change the device name to swap.
This probably means my swap is not set up.

Yes, probably. But you can test it by copying a file larger than your available memory to the RAM disk. If it works (more slowly than with a smaller file, of course), you have a working swap partition.

Best regards,

Niels

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Re: AmigaOS 4.1 - network problems
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@Dirk-B
The really fast solution to this is probably to copy over all your configuration files from your 4.0 installation: Everything in Devs:Internet and Devs:NetInterfaces. If you have special settings in your ENVARC:Roadshow/ directory, copy that complete directory as well. Then you *should* be up and running exactly like under 4.0, with no need to go through the wizard and Prefs editor again.

Of course, you won't know what the problem was, then (unless you make the effort of copying all the files one at a time and testing after each one).

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Niels

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