@Menthos

"but what about to open it again when the new window is closed, is there any such functionality in OS4.0 or OS4.1 simulating a 'Back'-button?"

If a third part OS4 programmer wants to implement it as window gadget he can, in fact new Intuition permitts to add new window gadget without become crazy... that gadget could send a message to Workbench ARexx port for "Parent Drawer"...

I give you an idea...

@TSK

"What I hate in MUI is all classes are spread around the internet. Some of them are on people personal websites, some in sourceforge, some of OS4 ports might be on os4depot and they're everywhere. I've never understood why MUI classes can't be all in aminet. Epistula is good (bad) example."

It's not MUI fault if some programmers have a bad behaviour... Believe me, it's not necessary a degree to make some check code which show you what classes you don't have and where they are on net... And sure, there is always the documentation of a source to read for understanding how are mcc are necessary...

@Rogue

>For one thing, they all promote resizability. That is a >good thing, of course, but there are limits. I don't >understand for example why buttons must resize the same >way as e.g. a listview does. When I resize a window with a >listview in it, I first and foremost would expect to get a >bigger listview, but most of the time,you get >proportionally larger buttons as well, which does not make >sense IMO.
>Sure, you can go ahead and distribute weights, but the >point is I should not have to do that in the first place.


I'm agree with you on this, on MUI I believe it's the price to pay for not having a dedicated button class separated from MUIC_Text. In certain cases this make UI adaptable to many situation, but in other context (even many simple ones) it's a plauge, I know ;)

>Secondly, since MUI invented them, this macro-chain-orgies >of generating an UI seems to be the preferred choice, and >I cannot understand why. It's a clumsy method that is very >prone to errors that are very difficult to detect since >the compiler will bitch about the whole statement only, >not about the real offending line.

eheh I hated macros on GUIs I written a guide to Amiga portable programming (soon it'll all translated in english, you can read part of it on http://shinkuro.amiga.it/guida/english) and I've avoided MUI macros because they give always problems when you port a source from an Amiga flavour to another one, so I agree

>Third, the type of functionality the toolkits offer are >far behind what other platforms offer. Just look at e.g. >Eclipse's SWT, the way you can reorganize tabs, dock >toolbars where you want to, etc. Granted, MUI offers >similar toolbars, but for the most part, they are either >awkward to use or require special programming.


On MUI4 it's all simpler...

>The possibilities that e.g. SWING has for listviews alone >makes any AmigaOS toolkit pale in comparison. Not only the >way it can display things (SWING can e..g use HTML to >format the entries in a listview) but also the way they >are programmed (subclassing the item type to get >specialized display of items in a list). All of this is >way too much effort under AmigaOS to justify it.

MUI4 list class is more simple and advanced than old MUI...
btw I love swing, I love its way to give to user many layout managment...sure on MUI you can add with an hook new layout algoritms, but you must have good knowledge to write a layout algoritm, so... btw some expert programmers can write some subclasses which have many chooses on layout...from this point of view MUI can be enanced...


>I am not saying the grass is always greener on the other >side. Windows shows a lot of potential to allow >programmers to totally screw up a user interface.

IMO MUI its the last historical GUI framework on Amiga which is yet considerable modern, sure it contains many old things, but it's born when there was Windows95 :) I believe that an APL version of MUI, like Zune is, it's an opportunity to not forget...

>But looking at things like SWT and SWING, I know what I >would like to future AmigaOS GUI toolkits to look like.

btw swing has many users and programmers that work on it in so many (strange or conventional) ways and thus each bug it's found and fixed, so it has a relative good "history" of develop which makes it stable. A totally new GUI framework on Amiga could not have this lucky...see Reaction...
MUI behaviour it well documented, and there are many programs which uses it, I don't tell you to go to MUI, but for example to take Zune, to mantain a certain MUI compatibility (right to run old programs and thus to have a base of testing) and to make it more integrated to OS4 in its inner parts... It's even an advantage from an OEM MUI version, which is limited...

>I also do not like the individual over-customizability of >MUI. Being able to change some aspects of a GUI like fonts >and maybe highlight colors are fine, but other than that,

Uhm with this I'm not agree MUI it's "Magic" because gives to user the power to customize like he wants all GUI aspects. It can seems against the usability and coerence aspects, but it's not true. You can give to user a coherent GUI, but leave to him the choose to adapt a GUI of a program to his way to work, and so the concept of usability becomes around a person in particular, not olny for a category ("the user") in general. It's something of ingenious, which must not lost.

>I've seen programs that look perfectly fine on one GUI >configuration look totally botched on another one. Themes >are the way to go there, since they add predictability >that we do not have right now.

Me too, and I tried on myself for example with my NoWinED (http://shinkuro.altervista.org/software/nowined.htm) OS3 version which doesn't appears very well on OS4, but I've fixed that (OS4 version has another type of GUI aspects), so I believe that in certain cases is the developer to have to test his program with standard gui customization, to understand if some of his chooses are visible on many differnt situations...
In addition to this, an user is not fool, he can fix his custom gui aspect for olny that program...


>No idea about Ambient. I've seen MorphOS maybe two or >three times in action (version 1.4.2 IIRC) and wasn't >exactly thrilled by Ambient, but that was a long time ago >and if I understand it correctly, it seems to have evolved >in the meantime.

A wonderful evolution from 1.4.2 Even if I don't love its monolithic nature...

@Rogue

If I am honest, I am not a big fan of any existing AmigaOS GUI toolkit...>

What do you think about Feelin? If we want a rock OOP framework, in the actual Amiga conditions (few users) the olny way to have a good framework always supported is into opensource in which any user can fix a problem and add more feature.
MUI has an its history with ages of testing and this make it and its MUI build-in classes very stable and coherent and with many features, ClassAct/Reaction hasn't the same history of developed program with it, and so Reaction classes are not enough mature as MUI's ones. You can see all this by third part programs produced from first OS4 prerelease to now (wookiechat, epistula, ecc...). Reaction classes are too few, too young, with few features to work on a serious project without lost much time. These "third parts" points of view are very important and should be considered.
To overcome this "history" problem we can use an opensource framework which gains faster this "history".
Sure, we can make Reaction opensource, but I believe that you have some licence problems with this issue...in addition to this many Reaction aspects are obsolete, and MUI better follows OOP paradigm.

And sure, if you want mantain compatibility issue on OS4 and don't use a new thing like Feelin is, there is always Zune to port on OS4, modifing it to better follow OS4 chooses... You can mantain in this way API signatures friendly to "old" programmers...

The same issue we should make with a modern workbench replacement, you should see how Ambient is evolved from its first opensource version from now. A fight between MOS team and Ambient author has given a good fruit for all mos users....
I believe that a new Workbench should be open source (obviously I don't think about GPL, but one of licences used by Apple/Sun/whatever), it should follow the same road taken by Ambient...

@LiveForIt

in this thread we speaks about :

"An open source project, using C/C++, with a license that would let Hyperion use the code in OS4."

So Wanderer is opensource, uses C, it's under APL.

@LiveForIt

They aren't open sources, and Yet another desktop is less advanced than Wanderer...

@orgin

It's incredible the amigans' attitude to re-invent the wheel for everything.
There are two Workbench replacement open source: Ambient and Wanderer.
Ambient is more advanced than Workbench and in the latest betas it's even more advanced than Dopus Magellan.
At this point the only two reasons for not choosing Ambient are its licence, GPL, and its monolithic nature. Of course, there are some MUI4 dependencies, but I don't believe that it's something of impossible adapt it to MUI3.9.
The two Ambient's reasons are not-existent on Wanderer, APL (so you can create your Wanderer commercial version, to add your Wanderer to a commercial product without any problem, and you olny must release your modifies), and its modular nature.
Wanderer is less advanced than Workbench, but it's potentially extensible, and of course, I've just done an initial port on OS4, so we would would need of help from some others programmers to make it work and usable on OS4.

I believe that amigans are enough mature to understand advantages of just ready opensource solutions and to not reopened stupid religion wars against MUI/Reaction.

last version of OWB for OS4 doesn't permitt to submit a report on SourgeForge tracker...

Hi, I've written a guide to write Amiga portable software, it is oriented for AROS, AmigaOS4 and MorphOS.
However it is written in italian language and I'm not able to translate it.

TAD are translating my guide in english, but he is alone and he has few time, if anyone want help him please contact me or him in mail


http://shinkuro.amiga.it
http://shinkuro.amiga.it/guida

crash:

http://crashlog.os4depot.net/cl49

@Chris

Thanks :)

@joerg

Please joerg, Can you add choose to add speed link buttons to owb
It vould be useful if this other toolbar could be setted on top or left or right, like IBrowse...

@joerg

Can you add a request to warn when memory is too few for showing all page, or similar please?

Crash on http://elfobruno.ilcannocchiale.it

http://crashlog.os4depot.net/cl10

the download feature of owb igores if there is just a file and overwrite in any case the file...

@LiveForIt

OWN crashs in any case if you have one or 2 programs opened and goes in that page, here crashlog, and there isn't memguard in execution (which crashs itself to stop that wrong memory alloc in any case):

Crash log for task "OWB"
Generated by GrimReaper 52.3
Crash occured in module OWB at address 0x7FAB30E4
Type of crash: DSI (Data Storage Interrupt) exception

Register dump:
GPR (General Purpose Registers):
0: EBBCD82C 6AB8F2D0 FDFFBBFF 6A358FA0 00000000 00000080 00001000 6A358FA0
8: 0121598C 00000000 6B6B7294 00000000 40822F22 6B6BE978 6AB8F5D0 6AB8F5CC
16: 6B617AAC 6AB8F5D4 6B617AAC 6AB8F5D8 6AB8F5C8 6AB8F5E0 000186A0 6AB8F5F4
24: 6A49B0E0 00000000 00007529 7FA925B4 00000000 6A358FA0 6B6808E8 6A2F2900


FPR (Floating Point Registers, NaN = Not a Number):
0: nan 0 0 0
4: -4.50979e-08 -7.88885e-10 0 0
8: 0 4.5036e+15 4.5036e+15 4.53078
12: 0 0 0 0
16: 0 0 0 0
20: 0 0 0 0
24: 0 0 0 0
28: 0 0 0 1.20497e+09

FPSCR (Floating Point Status and Control Register): 0x82002000


SPRs (Special Purpose Registers):
Machine State (msr) : 0x0200F030
Condition (cr) : 0x40822F28
Instruction Pointer (ip) : 0x7FAB30E4
Xtended Exception (xer) : 0x60003F6D
Count (ctr) : 0x01218F30
Link (lr) : 0x7FAB30BC
DSI Status (dsisr) : 0x40000000
Data Address (dar) : 0x00000008



680x0 emulated registers:
DATA: 00000000 00000072 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
ADDR: 69C74A74 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 6AB8EF10
FPU0: 0 0 0 0
FPU4: 0 0 0 0



Symbol info:
Instruction pointer 0x7FAB30E4 belongs to module "OWB" (HUNK/Kickstart)

Stack trace:
module OWB at 0x7FAB30E4 (section 5 @ 0x2C70C4)
module OWB at 0x7FAB1EE0 (section 5 @ 0x2C5EC0)
module OWB at 0x7FA92EE0 (section 5 @ 0x2A6EC0)
module OWB at 0x7F806250 (section 5 @ 0x1A230)
module OWB at 0x7F807630 (section 5 @ 0x1B610)
module OWB at 0x7F8C68E0 (section 5 @ 0xDA8C0)
module OWB at 0x7F81CF7C (section 5 @ 0x30F5C)
module OWB at 0x7F821010 (section 5 @ 0x34FF0)
module OWB at 0x7F821AB8 (section 5 @ 0x35A98)
module OWB at 0x7F8C04BC (section 5 @ 0xD449C)
module OWB at 0x7F9A2D9C (section 5 @ 0x1B6D7C)
module OWB at 0x7F8BDA30 (section 5 @ 0xD1A10)
module OWB at 0x7F82269C (section 5 @ 0x3667C)
module OWB at 0x7F8226DC (section 5 @ 0x366BC)
module OWB at 0x7F814D28 (section 5 @ 0x28D08)
module OWB at 0x7F820E4C (section 5 @ 0x34E2C)
module OWB at 0x7F829030 (section 5 @ 0x3D010)
module OWB at 0x7F82C2C0 (section 5 @ 0x402A0)
module OWB at 0x7FADB2B4 (section 5 @ 0x2EF294)
module OWB at 0x7FADB664 (section 5 @ 0x2EF644)
module OWB at 0x7FAC84A8 (section 5 @ 0x2DC488)
module OWB at 0x7FAC8618 (section 5 @ 0x2DC5F8)
module OWB at 0x7FAC9C04 (section 5 @ 0x2DDBE4)
module OWB at 0x7FA95544 (section 5 @ 0x2A9524)
module OWB at 0x7F7F1888 (section 5 @ 0x5868)
native kernel module newlib.library.kmod+0x00000de4
native kernel module newlib.library.kmod+0x00002380
native kernel module newlib.library.kmod+0x000028e0
_start()+0x180 (section 1 @ 0x180)
native kernel module kernel+0x00035be0
native kernel module kernel+0x00035c60


PPC disassembly:
7fab30dc: 90830004 stw r4,4(r3)
7fab30e0: 91230008 stw r9,8(r3)
*7fab30e4: 80040008 lwz r0,8(r4)
7fab30e8: 8164000c lwz r11,12(r4)
7fab30ec: 90030010 stw r0,16(r3)

System information:

CPU
Model: Motorola MPC 7445/7455 Apollo V2.1
CPU speed: 800 MHz
FSB speed: 133 MHz
Extensions: performancemonitor altivec

Machine
Machine name: AmigaOne
Memory: 262144 KB
Extensions: bus.pci bus.agp

Expansion buses
PCI/AGP
00:00.0 Vendor 0x10CC Device 0x0660
Range 0: 00000000 - 00400000 (PREF.MEM)
00:01.0 Vendor 0x10CC Device 0x0661
00:06.0 Vendor 0x10B7 Device 0x9200
Range 0: 00802000 - 00802080 (IO)
Range 1: 88100000 - 88100080 (MEM)
00:07.0 Vendor 0x1106 Device 0x0686
00:07.1 Vendor 0x1106 Device 0x0571
Range 4: 0000CC00 - 0000CC10 (IO)
00:07.2 Vendor 0x1106 Device 0x3038
Range 4: 00802080 - 008020A0 (IO)
00:07.3 Vendor 0x1106 Device 0x3038
Range 4: 008020A0 - 008020C0 (IO)
00:07.4 Vendor 0x1106 Device 0x3057
00:07.5 Vendor 0x1106 Device 0x3058
Range 0: 00000000 - 00000100 (IO)
Range 1: 00000000 - 00000008 (IO)
Range 2: 00000000 - 00000008 (IO)
00:07.6 Vendor 0x1106 Device 0x3068
Range 0: 00000000 - 00000100 (IO)
00:08.0 Vendor 0x1095 Device 0x0680
Range 0: 008020C0 - 008020C8 (IO)
Range 1: 008020C8 - 008020D0 (IO)
Range 2: 008020D0 - 008020D8 (IO)
Range 3: 008020D8 - 008020E0 (IO)
Range 4: 008020E0 - 008020F0 (IO)
00:09.0 Vendor 0x1102 Device 0x0002
Range 0: 00802100 - 00802120 (IO)
00:09.1 Vendor 0x1102 Device 0x7002
Range 0: 00802120 - 00802128 (IO)
01:00.0 Vendor 0x1002 Device 0x5144
Range 0: 80000000 - 88000000 (PREF.MEM)
Range 1: 00002000 - 00002100 (IO)
Range 2: 88000000 - 88080000 (MEM)

Libraries
0x6cb75558: ISO-8859-15.charset V52.1
0x6cb754d8: italian_ISO-8859-15.language V52.1
0x01ba3c22: exec.library V52.8
0x6ff74174: vilintuisup.library V0.9
0x6ff74048: cgxvideo.library V42.1
0x6ff420e0: cybergraphics.library V43.0
0x697a0200: sound.datatype V44.30
0x697a0020: 8svx.datatype V52.1
0x6a18a5d0: NBitmap.mcc V15.4
0x692fad50: muirexx.library V20.263
0x6a18a3f0: NListtree.mcc V18.27
0x6a18a350: Pendisplay.mui V20.172
0x6a18a2b0: Poppen.mui V20.248
0x6a18a030: Imagedisplay.mui V20.181
0x69c95ac0: Popimage.mui V20.249
0x69c95840: Dtpic.mui V20.172
0x69c955c0: BetterString.mcc V11.14
0x691c38fc: codesets.library V6.5
0x6a0e8b48: amissl_v097g.library V3.7
0x6a18a688: amisslmaster.library V3.7
0x6a2eeb54: javascript.library V3.25
0x6a240a40: gif.datatype V52.1
0x69c958e0: muipropg.class V20.251
0x69c95798: xenbar.image V20.172
0x69c95660: muiwinborder.class V20.253
0x69c953e0: NListview.mcc V19.75
0x69c81d40: muiscreen.library V20.334
0x6a567eb0: Popasl.mui V20.179
0x6a567e10: NList.mcc V20.120
0x6c780aae: Newstring.mcc V16.18 (Legacy)
0x6a567cd0: Floattext.mui V20.176
0x6a567c30: Virtgroup.mui V20.352
0x6a567b90: Listtree.mcc V20.21
0x6b9b883e: IBAreaPlugin.mcc V0.0 (Legacy)
0x6b9b87ee: IBGroupPlugin.mcc V0.0 (Legacy)
0x6a031e88: muigfx.library V20.510
0x6a55bbc8: muilowlevel.library V20.349
0x69c7f68c: muimaster.library V20.2277
0x6be58990: arexx.class V52.1
0x6be58350: fuelgauge.gadget V52.1
0x6b84c468: pthreads.library V52.2
0x6b9baa48: Clock.docky V52.1
0x6b9ba948: SubDock.docky V52.1
0x6b9ba8c8: Separator.docky V52.1
0x6b9ba848: CPUTemp.docky V52.14
0x6ba10370: slider.gadget V52.1
0x6ba10190: getfont.gadget V52.1
0x6ba14180: getfile.gadget V52.1
0x6bf4be88: popupmenu.class V52.1
0x6be5f0e8: listbrowser.gadget V52.3
0x6ba27e08: clicktab.gadget V52.1
0x6bdf9bd0: space.gadget V52.1
0x6c939430: penmap.image V52.1
0x6bf4b288: chooser.gadget V52.1
0x6c939530: bitmap.image V52.1
0x6bd86870: checkbox.gadget V52.1
0x6bdf9810: integer.gadget V52.1
0x6bd877e8: popupmenu.library V52.1
0x6bf49624: asl.library V52.1
0x6caeebe0: string.gadget V52.1
0x6bf4c5b8: screenblanker.library V52.1
0x6bd844f0: requester.class V52.1
0x6c83cac0: jpeg.datatype V52.1
0x6ca58aa4: usergroup.library V4.29
0x6c940420: mathieeedoubbas.library V52.1
0x6c8c5a60: bsdsocket.library V4.286
0x6c9b1aa0: label.image V52.1
0x6c939030: glyph.image V52.1
0x6c9b1960: button.gadget V52.1
0x6ff90e20: scroller.gadget V52.1
0x6c93f52c: textclip.library V52.1
0x6ca5a410: bevel.image V52.1
0x6cb9f848: layout.gadget V52.1
0x6ff90c20: drawlist.image V52.1
0x6cbbad00: window.class V52.1
0x6ca6c410: ilbm.datatype V52.1
0x6cba6c68: emulation.library V41.438
0x6ca6f044: picture.datatype V52.1
0x6ca6c050: png.datatype V52.1
0x6cba5768: timezone.library V52.1
0x6cb758d8: application.library V52.1
0x6ff9093c: ft2.library V8.1
0x6ff637ac: workbench.library V52.1
0x6cb774e0: Picasso96API.library V2.343
0x6cbb4e60: gadtools.library V52.1
0x6cb593dc: commodities.library V52.1
0x6cb64140: datatypes.library V52.1
0x6ff90644: png.iconmodule V52.1
0x6ffa70cc: icon.library V52.2
0x6cbb4440: iffparse.library V52.1
0x6fe36acc: locale.library V52.1
0x6ff767ac: diskfont.library V52.1
0x6ff94cd8: petunia.library V52.5
0x6ff743d8: diskcache.library V3.13
0x6fe205e8: dos.library V52.12
0x6ff74264: usbprivate.library V52.6
0x6ff94aac: hub.usbfd V52.4
0x6ff1408c: usbresource.library V52.6
0x6ff8fc18: hunk.library V52.2
0x6ff94354: elf.library V52.4
0x6ff1a4d0: intuition.library V52.2
0x6ff62150: rtg.library V41.4288
0x6ff8f8a0: ATIRadeon.chip V52.5
0x6ff8f824: PCIGraphics.card V52.2
0x6ffaaa10: keymap.library V52.1
0x6ff8cde0: layers.library V52.1
0x6ffb4420: graphics.library V52.1
0x6ff8e0e4: nonvolatile.library V52.1
0x6ffab318: newlib.library V52.33
0x6ff951ac: utility.library V52.1
0x6ffaa0a8: expansion.library V52.2
0x6c9d358e: rexxsyslib.library V45.3 (Legacy)

Devices
0x6c810bc4: eth3com.device V52.1
0x6cbbaf28: diskimage.device V52.32
0x6ff14300: usbsys.device V52.6
0x6ff8ea50: uhci.usbhcd V52.9
0x6ff8e704: sii0680ide.device V52.1
0x6ffa8628: console.device V52.2
0x6ff963f0: ramdrive.device V52.2
0x6ff763bc: input.device V52.1
0x6ffa8314: keyboard.device V52.1
0x6ffaa774: gameport.device V52.1
0x6ff962d0: timer.device V52.1

Tasks
ClickToFrontUPD4 (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6bfee004 - 0x6bff6ffc, pointer @ 0x6bff6b20 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0xc000d000, SigWait 0x00000100
State: Process (Waiting)
input.device (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6ff6a000 - 0x6ff72000, pointer @ 0x6ff71f70 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0x80000000, SigWait 0x00000000
State: Task (Waiting)
SFS DosList handler (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6fb99004 - 0x6fb9bffc, pointer @ 0x6fb9bf50 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0x80000000, SigWait 0x00000000
State: Process (Waiting)
USB stack (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6fe5c000 - 0x6fe60000, pointer @ 0x6fe5ff50 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0xf8007000, SigWait 0x00000000
State: Task (Waiting)
UHCI Controller Task Unit 0 (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6fe54000 - 0x6fe5c000, pointer @ 0x6fe5bf20 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0xbc001000, SigWait 0x00000000
State: Task (Waiting)
sii0680ide.device - chip 0 port 1 (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6fe8c000 - 0x6fe94000, pointer @ 0x6fe93f50 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0xc0000000, SigWait 0x00000000
State: Task (Waiting)
eth3com.device (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6c05d004 - 0x6c065ffc, pointer @ 0x6c065f40 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0xe0001000, SigWait 0x10000010
State: Process (Waiting)
sii0680ide.device - chip 0 port 0 (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6feb4000 - 0x6febc000, pointer @ 0x6febbf50 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0xc0000000, SigWait 0x20000000
State: Task (Waiting)
Backup (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6fb92004 - 0x6fb94ffc, pointer @ 0x6fb94ee0 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0xe0000100, SigWait 0x18000000
State: Process (Waiting)
DH4 (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6da11004 - 0x6da13ffc, pointer @ 0x6da13ee0 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0xe0000100, SigWait 0x18000000
State: Process (Waiting)
CD0 (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6fb8b004 - 0x6fb8dffc, pointer @ 0x6fb8df40 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0x00000100, SigWait 0x00000000
State: Process (Waiting)
RAM (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6ccb2004 - 0x6ccb4ffc, pointer @ 0x6ccb4ce0 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0xc0000100, SigWait 0x00000000
State: Process (Waiting)
ICD0 (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6c955004 - 0x6c95dffc, pointer @ 0x6c95df40 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0x00000100, SigWait 0x00000000
State: Process (Waiting)
DH2 (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6da03004 - 0x6da05ffc, pointer @ 0x6da05f20 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0xa8000100, SigWait 0x00000000
State: Process (Waiting)
DH1 (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6d9fc004 - 0x6d9feffc, pointer @ 0x6d9fef20 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0xa8000100, SigWait 0x00000000
State: Process (Waiting)
DH3 (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6da0a004 - 0x6da0cffc, pointer @ 0x6da0cf20 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0xa8000100, SigWait 0x00000000
State: Process (Waiting)
Shared (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6fba0004 - 0x6fba2ffc, pointer @ 0x6fba2f20 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0xa8000100, SigWait 0x00000000
State: Process (Waiting)
DH0 (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6fe09004 - 0x6fe0bffc, pointer @ 0x6fe0bf20 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0xa8000100, SigWait 0x00000000
State: Process (Waiting)
console.device (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6fec4000 - 0x6fecc000, pointer @ 0x6fecbf70 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0xf0000000, SigWait 0x00000000
State: Task (Waiting)
dos_flc_handler (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6fdf4004 - 0x6fdf6ffc, pointer @ 0x6fdf6f40 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0x00000100, SigWait 0x00000000
State: Process (Waiting)
dos_nbmd_process (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6fdfb004 - 0x6fdfdffc, pointer @ 0x6fdfdf50 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0x00000100, SigWait 0x00000000
State: Process (Waiting)
RAW (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6cca4004 - 0x6cca6ffc, pointer @ 0x6cca6e30 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0x80000100, SigWait 0x00000000
State: Process (Waiting)
CON (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6ccab004 - 0x6ccadffc, pointer @ 0x6ccade30 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0x80000100, SigWait 0x00000000
State: Process (Waiting)
CON (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6ccb9004 - 0x6ccbbffc, pointer @ 0x6ccbbe30 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0x80000100, SigWait 0x00000000
State: Process (Waiting)
AUDIO (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6c8b3004 - 0x6c8baffc, pointer @ 0x6c8baec0 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0x00000100, SigWait 0x00000000
State: Process (Waiting)
CON (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6bf7a004 - 0x6bf82ffc, pointer @ 0x6bf82e30 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0x80000100, SigWait 0x00000000
State: Process (Waiting)
CON (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6bef6004 - 0x6befeffc, pointer @ 0x6befee30 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0x80000100, SigWait 0x00000000
State: Process (Waiting)
CON (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6beaf004 - 0x6beb7ffc, pointer @ 0x6beb7e30 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0x80000100, SigWait 0x00000000
State: Process (Waiting)
CON (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6be74004 - 0x6be7cffc, pointer @ 0x6be7ce30 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0x80000100, SigWait 0x00000000
State: Process (Waiting)
RANDOM (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6c96a004 - 0x6c972ffc, pointer @ 0x6c972f20 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0x00000100, SigWait 0x00000000
State: Process (Waiting)
ENV (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6cbe0004 - 0x6cbe8ffc, pointer @ 0x6cbe8e30 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0x80000000, SigWait 0x00000100
State: Process (Waiting)
RexxMaster [] (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6c781004 - 0x6c788ffc, pointer @ 0x6c788f50 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0xc0000000, SigWait 0x00000100
State: Process (Waiting)
TEXTCLIP (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6c8d0004 - 0x6c8d8ffc, pointer @ 0x6c8d8ee0 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0x80000000, SigWait 0x00000100
State: Process (Waiting)
Workbench Clipboard Server (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6c072004 - 0x6c07affc, pointer @ 0x6c07af30 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0x80000000, SigWait 0x00000100
State: Process (Waiting)
Workbench DosList Notify (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6bd9e004 - 0x6bda6ffc, pointer @ 0x6bda6f70 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0x00003000, SigWait 0x00000100
State: Process (Waiting)
string.gadget server (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6bdd7004 - 0x6bddfffc, pointer @ 0x6bddfe20 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0x40000000, SigWait 0x00000100
State: Process (Waiting)
ContextMenus Command Dispatcher [ContextMenus Command Dispatcher] (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6b9f3004 - 0x6b9fcffc, pointer @ 0x6b9fcf70 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0x80001000, SigWait 0x00000000
State: Process (Waiting)
Workbench [Workbench] (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6c532004 - 0x6c53affc, pointer @ 0x6c53ae60 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0x80000000, SigWait 0x00000100
State: Process (Waiting)
AmiDock (Ready)
Stack: 0x6bebc004 - 0x6bec4ffc, pointer @ 0x6bec44d0 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0x00000010, SigWait 0x00000010
State: Process (Ready)
hub.usbfd (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6fe10000 - 0x6fe18000, pointer @ 0x6fe17f40 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0xa0000000, SigWait 0x00000000
State: Task (Waiting)
application.library messageserver (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6ca6a000 - 0x6ca6afa0, pointer @ 0x6ca6af10 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0xc0000000, SigWait 0x00000000
State: Task (Waiting)
datatypes.library (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6ca60004 - 0x6ca68ffc, pointer @ 0x6ca68f40 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0x00001100, SigWait 0x00000000
State: Process (Waiting)
USB stack Process (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6c987004 - 0x6c98fffc, pointer @ 0x6c98ff40 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0x80001000, SigWait 0x00000100
State: Process (Waiting)
ConClip (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6c82b004 - 0x6c833ffc, pointer @ 0x6c833ee0 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0x80000000, SigWait 0x00000000
State: Process (Waiting)
TCP/IP Log (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6c816004 - 0x6c81effc, pointer @ 0x6c81ef40 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0x80003000, SigWait 0x00000000
State: Process (Waiting)
Altabber (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6bfd9004 - 0x6bfe0ffc, pointer @ 0x6bfe0ec0 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0x80001000, SigWait 0x00000010
State: Process (Waiting)
RAWBInfo (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6bf24004 - 0x6bf2cffc, pointer @ 0x6bf2cef0 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0x80001000, SigWait 0x00000000
State: Process (Waiting)
ASYNCWB (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6bed9004 - 0x6bee1ffc, pointer @ 0x6bee1ec0 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0x80001000, SigWait 0x00000100
State: Process (Waiting)
? IPrefs ? (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6cb85004 - 0x6cb8dffc, pointer @ 0x6cb8d580 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0x0000f000, SigWait 0xc0000100
State: Process (Waiting)
DefIcons (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6bf03004 - 0x6bf0bffc, pointer @ 0x6bf0bdf0 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0x80009000, SigWait 0x00000100
State: Process (Waiting)
ContextMenus [] (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6be89004 - 0x6be91ffc, pointer @ 0x6be91d40 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0xe0001000, SigWait 0x00000100
State: Process (Waiting)
ScreenBlankerEngine (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6bf8f004 - 0x6bf97ffc, pointer @ 0x6bf97c00 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0xe0001000, SigWait 0x00000000
State: Process (Waiting)
TCP/IP Configuration (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6c7e9004 - 0x6c7f1ffc, pointer @ 0x6c7f1e40 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0xf8003000, SigWait 0x00000010
State: Process (Waiting)
muigfx.library (Waiting)
Stack: 0x69f07004 - 0x69f86ffc, pointer @ 0x69f86f10 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0x40001000, SigWait 0x00000100
State: Process (Waiting)
MUI-PubScreen-IBrowse (Waiting)
Stack: 0x69e16004 - 0x69e95ffc, pointer @ 0x69e95dd0 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0x00001000, SigWait 0x00000100
State: Process (Waiting)
TCP/IP Superserver [TCP/IP Superserver] (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6c7d4004 - 0x6c7dcffc, pointer @ 0x6c7dca30 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0xd0000080, SigWait 0x00000000
State: Process (Waiting)
ramlib (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6cc1e004 - 0x6cc26ffc, pointer @ 0x6cc26f50 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0x80000000, SigWait 0x00000100
State: Process (Waiting)
IBrowse (Waiting)
Stack: 0x69b07084 - 0x69b86fc4, pointer @ 0x69b86a80 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0x33e09000, SigWait 0x40000100
State: Process (Waiting)
reaper.task (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6cc2b004 - 0x6cc33ffc, pointer @ 0x6cc33ee0 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0x00007000, SigWait 0x00000000
State: Process (Waiting)
screenblanker.library timing dispatcher (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6bdf0000 - 0x6bdf2000, pointer @ 0x6bdf1ec0 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0x40000000, SigWait 0x80000000
State: Task (Waiting)
TCP/IP Control (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6c7af004 - 0x6c7b7ffc, pointer @ 0x6c7b7e10 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0xf8009080, SigWait 0x00000000
State: Process (Waiting)
WookieChat_OS4 (Waiting)
Stack: 0x697df004 - 0x69859ffc, pointer @ 0x69857dc0 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0x53e01080, SigWait 0x00000100
State: Process (Waiting)
OWB (Crashed)
Stack: 0x6ab0f004 - 0x6ab8fffc, pointer @ 0x6ab8f2d0 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0x00000020, SigWait 0x08000100
State: Process (Crashed)
diskimage.device:4 (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6c925004 - 0x6c92dffc, pointer @ 0x6c92dec0 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0x80000000, SigWait 0x00000100
State: Process (Waiting)
Picasso96 (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6cb35004 - 0x6cb3dffc, pointer @ 0x6cb3ddf0 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0x80000000, SigWait 0x00000000
State: Process (Waiting)
dos_signal_server (Waiting)
Stack: 0x6fe02004 - 0x6fe04ffc, pointer @ 0x6fe04f50 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0x0000e000, SigWait 0x00000000
State: Process (Waiting)
Sound_ObjectHandler (Waiting)
Stack: 0x68d09004 - 0x68d83ffc, pointer @ 0x68d83ee0 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0x4000f000, SigWait 0x00000100
State: Process (Waiting)
Sound_ObjectHandler (Waiting)
Stack: 0x68c8a004 - 0x68d04ffc, pointer @ 0x68d04ee0 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0x4000f000, SigWait 0x00000100
State: Process (Waiting)
Sound_ObjectHandler (Waiting)
Stack: 0x68bff004 - 0x68c79ffc, pointer @ 0x68c79ee0 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0x4000f000, SigWait 0x00000100
State: Process (Waiting)
idle.task (Ready)
Stack: 0x6ff8d000 - 0x6ff8e000, pointer @ 0x6ff8dfd0 (Cookie OK)
Signals: SigRec 0x00000000, SigWait 0x00000000
State: Task (Ready)

@ShInKurO

OWB doesn't permitt to post anything on www.amigapage.it,
every way that you try to write on a field OWB put down all web page, it's a strange behaviour

@LiveForIt

Because while debug something I check if it break something in memory?

Since each new OWB version seems to have its topic on this site, it's very difficult for me (and I believe even for developers) follow in what sities owb has problems... thus I have opened this topic addressed olny for show where owb crash...

Here (A1 G4 800mhz, 256mb ram) owb crashs on :

http://shinkuro.altervista.org/guida/CAP_3.txt

Here sashimi output:

MEMGUARD HIT - [5] "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" (6AA50C10)
allocation of 119619584 bytes by AllocVec() failed
0: EA333BCC 6824F220 69A2CF69 01A92810 07214000 00000800 00000005 00007529
8: 00000038 7F0228D0 00000000 00004000 240E2488 697919B8 6824F5D0 6824F5CC
16: 6B6F2AEC 6824F5D4 6B6F2AEC 00000000 000003E5 00007529 00000020 00FF0000
24: 0000FF00 6978A258 000000FF 072122B8 69789A4C 00000000 6974AEF4 07214000
----> 01A92810 : "Kickstart/kernel" segment 0001 offset 4280C
----> 7F0228D0 : "Work:Develp./memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 88C8
----> 697919B8 : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0003 offset 98970
----> 6B6F2AEC : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 000D offset 21AA4
----> 6B6F2AEC : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 000D offset 21AA4
----> 6978A258 : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0003 offset 91210
----> 69789A4C : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0003 offset 90A04
----> 6974AEF4 : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0003 offset 51EAC
LR 7F41736C : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 0364
CTR 7F0228D0 : "Work:Develp./memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 88C8

Stack backtrace:
----> 7F41736C : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 0364
----> 7F417838 : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 0830
----> 7F4196F4 : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 26EC
----> 7F419758 : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 2750
----> 7F2F6D34 : "AmigaOS4:SObjs/libSDL-1.2.so" segment 0000 offset 27D30
----> 7F6DCEC8 : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 2C5EC0
----> 7F6BDEE0 : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 2A6ED8
----> 7F431250 : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 1A248
----> 7F432630 : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 1B628
----> 7F4F18E0 : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset DA8D8
----> 7F447F7C : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 30F74
----> 7F44C010 : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 35008
----> 7F44CAB8 : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 35AB0
----> 7F4EB4BC : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset D44B4
----> 7F5CDD9C : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 1B6D94
----> 7F4E8A30 : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset D1A28
----> 7F44D69C : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 36694
----> 7F44D6DC : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 366D4
----> 7F43FD28 : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 28D20
----> 7F44BE4C : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 34E44
----> 7F454030 : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 3D028
----> 7F4572C0 : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 402B8
----> 7F7062B4 : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 2EF2AC
----> 7F706664 : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 2EF65C
----> 7F6F34A8 : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 2DC4A0
----> 7F6F3618 : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 2DC610
----> 7F6F4C04 : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 2DDBFC
----> 7F6C0544 : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 2A953C
----> 7F41C888 : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 5880
----> 01400AE4 : "Kickstart/newlib.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 0DE0
----> 01402048 : "Kickstart/newlib.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 2344
----> 014025E0 : "Kickstart/newlib.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 28DC
----> 7F4171A0 : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 0198
----> 01235BE0 : "Kickstart/kernel" segment 0000 offset 35BDC
----> 01235C60 : "Kickstart/kernel" segment 0000 offset 35C5C

Disassembly:
7F417368: 4E800421 bctrl
7F41736C: 7C7F1B79 mr. r31,r3
7F417370: 418200B4 beq- 0x7F417424
7F417374: 813C0000 lwz r9,0(r28)
7F417378: 837E8004 lwz r27,-32764(r30)

68k context:
DATA: 00000000 00000003 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
ADDR: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 6824ECE0

68k Stack backtrace:
----> 6B185E1C : "Work:Develp./memguard/MemGuard" segment 0006 offset 0E14
----> 7FFC8458 : "LIBS:locale.library" segment 0005 offset 5450
----> 6824ED98 : "LIBS:locale.library" segment 0005 offset 969C
----> 7F01A020 : "Work:Develp./memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 0018
----> 6824ED90 : "LIBS:locale.library" segment 0005 offset 95C0
----> 0123B468 : "Work:Develp./SashimiPPC/SashimiPPC" segment 0005 offset 0084
----> 01218F30 : "Kickstart/kernel" segment 0000 offset 18F2C
----> 0121B18C : "Kickstart/kernel" segment 0000 offset 1B188
----> 0121B664 : "Kickstart/kernel" segment 0000 offset 1B660
----> 01C40000 : "Kickstart/bootmenu.kmod" segment 0001 offset 205C
----> 012EAD08 : "Kickstart/dos.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset CD84
----> 01218D08 : "Kickstart/kernel" segment 0000 offset 18D04

MEMGUARD HIT - [5] "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" (6AA50C10)
allocation of 119619584 bytes by AllocVec() failed
0: EA333BCC 6824F220 69A2CF69 01A92810 07214000 00000800 01B93424 01B93448
8: 0103F8C0 7F0228D0 00000000 00004000 220E2428 697919B8 6824F5D0 6824F5CC
16: 6B6F2AEC 6824F5D4 6B6F2AEC 00000000 000003E5 00007529 00000020 00FF0000
24: 0000FF00 6978A258 000000FF 072122B8 69789A4C 07214000 6974AEF4 07214000
----> 01A92810 : "Kickstart/kernel" segment 0001 offset 4280C
----> 01B93424 : "Kickstart/kernel" segment 0001 offset 143420
----> 01B93448 : "Kickstart/kernel" segment 0001 offset 143444
----> 7F0228D0 : "Work:Develp./memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 88C8
----> 697919B8 : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0003 offset 98970
----> 6B6F2AEC : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 000D offset 21AA4
----> 6B6F2AEC : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 000D offset 21AA4
----> 6978A258 : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0003 offset 91210
----> 69789A4C : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0003 offset 90A04
----> 6974AEF4 : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0003 offset 51EAC
LR 7F41736C : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 0364
CTR 7F0228D0 : "Work:Develp./memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 88C8

Stack backtrace:
----> 7F41736C : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 0364
----> 7F417D44 : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 0D3C
----> 7F4196F4 : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 26EC
----> 7F419758 : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 2750
----> 7F2F6D34 : "AmigaOS4:SObjs/libSDL-1.2.so" segment 0000 offset 27D30
----> 7F6DCEC8 : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 2C5EC0
----> 7F6BDEE0 : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 2A6ED8
----> 7F431250 : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 1A248
----> 7F432630 : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 1B628
----> 7F4F18E0 : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset DA8D8
----> 7F447F7C : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 30F74
----> 7F44C010 : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 35008
----> 7F44CAB8 : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 35AB0
----> 7F4EB4BC : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset D44B4
----> 7F5CDD9C : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 1B6D94
----> 7F4E8A30 : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset D1A28
----> 7F44D69C : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 36694
----> 7F44D6DC : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 366D4
----> 7F43FD28 : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 28D20
----> 7F44BE4C : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 34E44
----> 7F454030 : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 3D028
----> 7F4572C0 : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 402B8
----> 7F7062B4 : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 2EF2AC
----> 7F706664 : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 2EF65C
----> 7F6F34A8 : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 2DC4A0
----> 7F6F3618 : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 2DC610
----> 7F6F4C04 : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 2DDBFC
----> 7F6C0544 : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 2A953C
----> 7F41C888 : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 5880
----> 01400AE4 : "Kickstart/newlib.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 0DE0
----> 01402048 : "Kickstart/newlib.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 2344
----> 014025E0 : "Kickstart/newlib.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset 28DC
----> 7F4171A0 : "Internet:Browser/owb/OWB" segment 0005 offset 0198
----> 01235BE0 : "Kickstart/kernel" segment 0000 offset 35BDC
----> 01235C60 : "Kickstart/kernel" segment 0000 offset 35C5C

Disassembly:
7F417368: 4E800421 bctrl
7F41736C: 7C7F1B79 mr. r31,r3
7F417370: 418200B4 beq- 0x7F417424
7F417374: 813C0000 lwz r9,0(r28)
7F417378: 837E8004 lwz r27,-32764(r30)

68k context:
DATA: 00000000 00000003 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
ADDR: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 6824ECE0

68k Stack backtrace:
----> 6B185E1C : "Work:Develp./memguard/MemGuard" segment 0006 offset 0E14
----> 7FFC8458 : "LIBS:locale.library" segment 0005 offset 5450
----> 6824ED98 : "LIBS:locale.library" segment 0005 offset 969C
----> 7F01A020 : "Work:Develp./memguard/MemGuard" segment 0005 offset 0018
----> 6824ED90 : "LIBS:locale.library" segment 0005 offset 95C0
----> 0123B468 : "Work:Develp./SashimiPPC/SashimiPPC" segment 0005 offset 0084
----> 01218F30 : "Kickstart/kernel" segment 0000 offset 18F2C
----> 0121B18C : "Kickstart/kernel" segment 0000 offset 1B188
----> 0121B664 : "Kickstart/kernel" segment 0000 offset 1B660
----> 01C40000 : "Kickstart/bootmenu.kmod" segment 0001 offset 205C
----> 012EAD08 : "Kickstart/dos.library.kmod" segment 0000 offset CD84
----> 01218D08 : "Kickstart/kernel" segment 0000 offset 18D04
Dump of context at 0xefedeb70
Trap type: DSI exception
Machine State (raw): 0x0200f030
Machine State (verbose): [ExtInt on] [User] [FPU on] [IAT on] [DAT on]
Instruction pointer: 0x7f6de0e4
Crashed process: Internet:Browser/owb/OWB (0x6aa50c10)
0: EA07586C 6824F2D0 69A2CF69 6B2C7DC8 00000000 00000080 01B93424 6B2C7DC8
8: 0103F8C0 00000000 6978A2D4 00000000 440E2442 697919B8 6824F5D0 6824F5CC
16: 6B6F2AEC 6824F5D4 6B6F2AEC 6824F5D8 6824F5C8 6824F5E0 000186A0 6824F5F4
24: 6AD2DA20 00000000 00007529 7F6BD5B4 00000000 6B2C7DC8 69753928 6AD29940
CR: 440E2448 XER: 2000090E CTR: 01218F30 LR: 7F6DE0BC
DSISR: 40000000 DAR: 00000008

FP0 : FFF8000082002000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000
FP4 : BE68363628800000 BE0B1B1B130F0900 0000000000000000 0000000000000000
FP8 : 0000000000000000 4330000080000000 4330000080000000 4010F86B59146E4C
FP12: 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000
FP16: 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000
FP20: 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000
FP24: 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000
FP28: 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 0000000000000000 41D1F4938ED58994
FPSCR: 82002000

V0 : 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
V2 : 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
V4 : 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
V6 : 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
V8 : 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
V10: 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
V12: 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
V14: 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
V16: 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
V18: 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
V20: 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
V22: 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
V24: 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
V26: 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
V28: 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
V30: 00000000000000000000000000000000 00000000000000000000000000000000
VSCR: 00000000 VRSAVE: 00000000
DSI verbose error description: Access not found in hash or BAT (page fault)
Access was a load operation

Hi, I have a GR on http://shinkuro.altervista.org/guida/CAP_3.txt, with 1.14 GR isn't ignorable (ignore dsi error), now with 1.15 is ignorable, but there is it.