@number6
I see memory protection as way more important than a printing system. Crashes are a pain when they happen and everything is locked. Printing on the other hand is something I don't use but for those who really need it it's not impossible either.

I think the core OS fundamentals (whatever they are) needs to be in place before we start on all the nice to have extras that won't be needed by everyone.

@NotYo

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@DaveP
First of all if you are running AmigaOS4.0 you should be aware of some of the shortcomings and that an update to 4.1 upd.2 would be a good idea if not mandatory to use newer software. AmigaOS really is a work in progress I have to admit, but personally I find it very usable.

Let's take your list from the point where you have choosen to upgrade. 5-6-7-8 is pretty nessecary with any fysical product.

#11 You don't make a clean install again for update 2
#12 Why would you have to download the Alpha release of Timberwolf?
# 13 It starts slow first time, in ten seconds 2nd time. Ok for an Alpha release?
#14 Don't use an alpha version of
#15 Timberwolf when you have a more stable
#16 OWB.
#17 Whatever OS you use you have to make a bid yourself?

#?%& Follow Mikey_C' instructions at your own risk

#19 Again a point that has nothing to do with AmigaOS4
#21 same as above

#22 AmigaOS and printers have unfortunately always been troublesome which needs to be changed in the future and I could see if you had spend most of your time at this point.

@abalaban
Dave had to put a little extra on the list to make it look of something:)

A lot of the points on the list are NOT valid or would be the same using any OS and making a post like that IMO conflicts a lot with the topic.
Especially as it seems Dave have mentioned other much more relevant points (regarding future of OS4 + X1000) in which I also agree more.

@DaveP
You seem to have some serious issues with your hardware or OS installation if it crashes that often. The only crashes I have is when I'm low on memory (256Mb is not sufficient for the number of OWB tabs I have open sometimes).

I looked at your list and really fail to see the big problems.

1. ofcourse you have to update if you want to use the newest AmigaOS and the newest software. If everything should be 100% backwards compatible we'd still be using Wb1.3 or whatever... If it is simply a money issue stick to Ubuntu.

2. OWB works fine with Ebay here, never tried TW (see point 4).
3. OWB generally works fine with GMail eventually use the simple html version.
4. Timberwolf works quite ok, but is IMO not ready for everyday use. It boots in 10 sec. though... Apart from the first time where it does the fonts stuff.
5. I fail to share your negativity, AmigaOS is a hobby system for me and does almost replace my pc.

@Elwood
I second that...
I hope fromnow on we see full focus on moving AOS forward. Personally I hardly ever use neither UAE or petunia for that matter as most if not all of my day to day use is with PPC applications.

I think most backwards compatibility could be handled via an improved version of UAE.

@Antique
I hope you won't have the need to send your SAM to Italy for repair in the near future

Where's Norway and Sweden btw.
EDIT: answer: at home just like DK

@all

Danish news site refers to the article at The Register.
http://newz.dk/ny-amiga-fremvist-til-offentligheden#new

@kas1e
As long as the discussions are not to heated I would prefer to have them here where there are no trolls.
I don't mind discussing X86 vs PPC but some people on AW.net fail to see that there's more to it than just buy an (any!) x86 board.

On-topic.
The show looked like great fun. With both Acube, A-eon and Hyperion being there I had hoped for a little more news about the future development of OS4.

@djrikki
http://www.os4depot.net/index.php?fun ... network/news/xnet_rss.lha

Have you proposed A-eon regarding your site design?

@COBRA
It's a nice first product but I really don't like the AmigaOne logo. The font looks to bold, it's just really bad looking IMO.
Since AmigaOne is supposed to be the new Amiga brand it should be looking better.

more on-topic
Sounds like the X1000 will be too pricey for me but a nice development for Amiga enthusiasts who can afford it

@MamePPCA1
I have been using sys:system/biosupdater

I have been told it should be more safe doing it via Uboot but if you're not running anything else it shouldn't fail. And if it isn't working properly I think it wouldn't be included anymore.

I need a printer for my A1 whats the best choice, what does people here have fully working?

- I don't do a lot of prints, perhaps 20 a week.

- I don't NEED colour but it would be nice to have.

- It would be nice if the thing could easily connect to a PC aswell, how do I do that without having to move cable all the time? Wifi?

- Ink or laser...?

- Does it have to be postscript compatible?

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I also need a RAM upgrade for the A1-XE as it only has 256MB installed. Back when I bought it, it was unstable with both 256Mb memory modules installed.

I would like to have it upgraded/replaced to 1Gb, does anyone have some modules laying around that works and is for sale?

Any places that sells working memory modules for the A1?

@ChrisH
You have way too much time for speculations

I can see your point but I think we should just wait and see what kind of information the betatesters receives.

-----> I also have to much time but that is unfortunately because of no work (since Thursday). This also means lack of money and no X1000 for me in the near future

@ALL

We mis-calculated a bit (tax and shipping costs) so bounty is open again. We're closing it at EUR 1550 and money will be used for 2 SAM systems and to cover shipping costs (from acube and to developers).

@ssolie
Exactly, never saw why people worried to much about speed. FF runs great on my older pc's, even those with similar speeds to the SAM. Startup takes some time and really Javascript heavy sites can be a bit slow but apart from that it just works as long as the computer has enough memory.

I am really looking forward to see further optimizations, it's not to far from being able to replace OWB

@ALL
I can see Timberwolf almost reached 500 dls. on OS4depot.net. Remember that if you like what you see in the alpha release and wants to show your appreciation to the Friedens, you can still make a donation via Amigabounty.net Project Timberwolf Thanks for the support of the project.

@amigadad

Hopefully Bean is able to fix this easily, I use this function everyday. Tunenet is a great application

@Antique
I second that! It's very nice of Trevor to take care of this bounty, I'm sure he's as busy as anyone of us

@Mrodfr
Abalaban's hw trouble was the reason we discussed this bounty in the first place. AFAIK he's lent a new machine but it's to avoid delays like this (on the wxWidgets port) we initiated this bounty.

@Jaokim

Good work, nice to see this project alive again:)