@Hans

SSL: puh, maybe Frank has to include it on a different place. He know it better as he does it (and also had begun). So please belive not me to much in case of coding ;) But Frank doesn´t write a lot. So i have to say some words from time to time to break the silence ;)

Screenblanker also here does not start, if i remember right Emotion is using application.library for this (i ask Frank, i am not the coder in our team ;) ).

For Updates and news:
An update for Emotion is in the work but needs some time. As written before on other places, the last year was not easy for us and we had to focus on keeping alive. So Amiga related stuff where less then before. We hope that we find more time this year (ehm, if i say "we", i mean Frank because i only do concept and graphics/gui ;) ).

The biggest task is to bring SSL Support to emotion, so ffmpeg (the libraries around) has to be adjusted and this needs time and is very much work. So the main feature for a next release is this feature. Second, we need an "eject" button... a very, very big task for me (i have paint an icon, needs 5 -10 minutes). And if there is really a problem with screenblanker, we have a new thing on our list.

The developmnent blog is also very outdated, simply no time and no much readers.

I think Raziel takes it a little bit easy than it is. Yes it is a paid product as candi that not works for you (but for all/most others, it seems..). But behind the projects there are only two people where only one can code and they fight for every spare time minute. The whole situation, our and the AmigaOS situation is not the best. It is also not very motivating to spend freetime if around nothing works well.
We hope for a fast tabor release that we all can look forward. Currently i have the feeling that only a hand full of users are out and we hope that it could rise a bit again.

Our work is half fun/hobby based but also half business based. We could sell around 150 Emotions, we do not make secrets about such things. After Amistore fee, there are 16,- Euros here and then on top some tax (income for each and business tax). So the net amount of 2400 is getting reduced a little bit again. Then a 50/50 split and here we are...
So it is nice for AmigaOS software and we are very happy.
BUT we also see it a bit through pink glasses (is this the right word for it, Rosarote Brille ;)? ). Frank spent more than 6 Month in FULLTIME on Emotion. So in every thread we hear "it is paid, paid, paid and we want it uptaded every day", it makes it not easyer to get motivated. If we spent the time not for Emotion than on games on other platforms instead, we maybe never had such a year like last one.

In future, we also have to focus. We want to make some AmigaOS related stuff but we don´t know how much time we can spend. With our game engine, we can build some games based on existing ones. So i can make graphics for another platformer or work on new games pased on our prototypes (we have a lot of them ;) ), this needs time.
And then, this could be the time for Frank to work on AmigaOS stuff (if i am behind with my gfx stuff). But all ideas and dreams also could be delayed. For instance we want to support PS4 later this year, so Frank has to port the engine to this system which needs much time too (PC, Xbox, Switch is done!).

Maybe it sounds a bit negative, but we are looking forward. And becaus we had to focus last year, the current one has started much better. So we can see it slightly positive again ;)

@Hans
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Seems that we don´t have the newest driver (we had some infos that it is included in the latest Enhancer beta?), perhaps you can send us an email with it to be faster than an Answer from Aeon after purchasing the newest Beta stuff.

I think Frank should get SPE to work, he want spend time today for it. The term that we need some special compiling is in my opinion a problem (only few devs, only in freetime), also if this are only some hours...

Thanks!!!!!

Hi,
we tried several times to reproduce the problem but it NEVER occours on one of our Systems. So it is hard to find something.

Yesterday i played around on my Sam460 and it worked well with all combinations, also if the system runs some hours (working on it or just let it on). Also screenblanker worked well.

Some Notes: All our systmems have the latest official Updates of AmigaOS (F.E. + Update). Enhancer is not installed, Candi from AmiStore (which is the version we send to A-Eon). Candy is also coded to run as delivered from us but it seems that in Enhancer someone has splitted Candi and Prefs in different drawers (i don´t know if other files more placed on other places too). We also had some problems, freezings in our other games and some of them where only of "Enhanced" Systems (often in older versions, Sound Prefs etc... may solved already).

So what i want to say; We only can support official AmigaOS releases. If someone replaces or enhanced components we can not spend much time in finding problems. We have to focus in our own problems and living. As you see, the last year was a silence from our side, we had to focus on our work (making small games on other platforms) for living. We are happy that it seems we can get a little bit forward this year and we could find more Amiga time (thumbs pressed ;)!).

Beside this, we have to focus on our own projects and want to stay independent. The first version of Candy was a nice project but from our side, we never had a plan to make a prefs (just click and start... what could be easyer?). But some Tabor images and sending two boards for payment was a trigger for us ;) A little mistake... We never do this again. So we had new depencies we never wanted and had to build the prefs thing no one really needs with functions we never wanted (Why notification on changing????).

Wa don´t want to spend much time in Candi! It was a nice project to try what is possible but we can not spend more and more time in such small things. I am also not a big fan of the Enhencer Suite, it is a bit senseless. We don´t need OS Replacements because we have working components. Not perfect but it works since years and coders could use it since years to build software. We also don´t need an AmiDock Replacements... why the hell do we spend time on it, Amidock is not perfect but it works!!!. Or a Clock with thousands of settings which also have to be coded. With only a hand full coders i feel that all of them spended time for making "enhancements" and replacements and have no time for Software we need (yes Candi and we was a part of this, so not it is not a point to other devs).
I wish the time and money over the last years in things like Browser, Email Client or other tools.

My whish:
1. Only deliver a driver Suite (Radiance was a nice Name, i have never seen a product from here).
2. Stop Enhancer and deliver the tools and software as single product (For what is Amistore if only are 10 Enhencer Versions there?) -> A good thing to see if users like the software (if purchased and used) and stop afford of updating and coding if they dislike it -> focus on new things (with an Enhancer Suite we never get good feedback and don´t know if users only use some parts or gfx drivers.)
3. stop making replacements of System components. Like it or not, currently AmigaOS is the official OS (yes, updates needed but much replaced components where working for years!). It is a waste of time, some official components will get updates.

4. I don´t know what i say to AmiStore. Some days ago we purchased for 80 Euros a Beta Enhancer only for newest gfx drivers (wich may updates for Tabor) ONLY to look what afford we have to spend on our Games (Spencer etc.) to get it run on Tabor. That´s alone is a shame that we have to adjust working software for an SPE Shit (in terms of only a few developers and only time in spare time i dont´know that to think, waste of time!).
So after spending 80 Euros to support a A-Eon Platform we have a not working download, no answer of our email (yes we also wait for an other email some weeks ago). If i´m honest, i expect free drivers to be able to code and test products which are almost the only one who exists for the drivers...

You see i am a little pissed of the situation ;) Tabor runs not bad but Spencer sucks in current state, would be nice to see if a newer driver can solve some issues and we hope that we don´t have to spend very much time in it (compiling/optimizing for SPE).

@Raziel+Candi: We hope you enjoyed it a bit but i am not shure if we find a problem. Maybe it is a bit waste of money but for us also a big waste of time because we have to focus a bit of new stuff (yes, it was a shitty year, last year ;) ).

EDIT: Whish 5: Try to overthink the CPU in Tabor, it would be a good idea to have a real FPU (Also from developer afford view). Anyway it runs not bad, yesterday we played Classic UAE games which works much, much better on my Sam460, great!

Regards,
Thomas

... on a Boot CD no RadeonHD Drivers with compositing are available, only after installation of them. It should not run with starting it without the RadeonHD driver.

Sorry to say, but it runs on most/all? symstems from other users. It is hard to find an issue.

@Raziel

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... that´s the point. We can not support others software.
AmigaOS4.1 FE is our target and we can not search for bugs in Enhancer.

@Raziel
We can not find any issues with candy. Also very strange ;)
Maybe a third party software has some problems in some strange cases?

@Raziel
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If i remember right, the Warp3DNova samples uses plain W3DNova without OpenGLES!

So, the samples could work if your openGLES installation is broken or outdated.

Spencer need OGLES (one of the later versions because some bugs where fixed since release of it and Daniel made some Feature improvements we need to run Spencer).


Nice to hear that it works now!

I also have no more ideas :(
The options are only hidden, if the game does not find a system which is not able to run warp3D Nova games (with the newest drivers).

It is really strange!

Any other ideas?

Maybe openGLES is missing?

After Enhancer installation, please check for updates (Amisphere???).

@Raziel: You should download the latest drivers via AmiSphere. With your Radeon7750 and newest Warp3D Nova, you should have shadows.

If the driver fits not the minimal requirements, the old Warp3D renderer works as fallback.

With Nova, you should have realtime shadows, lightning and much more FPS.

@RIBDEVIL: Thanks ;)

Here a link for the demo version:
http://os4depot.net/index.php?functio ... platform/spencertrial.lha

With a huge amount of using shaders for lightning, realtime shadow etc. It could be a good stress test for your card.

@Raziel: The Dandelion should have a random animation, meybe it was a bad "random seed" in your case ;)?
We will look into it.

@kas1e

100% ACK!

[Quite]Hmm, you're right, I was remembering an older version of Emotion Player... Now it is even worse as there is NO WAY to make the window resize to give 100% scaling of the video (i.e. 1 input pixel = 1 output pixel = best quality). I certainly won't be purchasing the full version until THAT is fixed.[\Quote]

You can hit "w" while playing to fit the window to video size. We played around while developing and from all choices it was the best to make it this way.

[Quote]I certainly won't be purchasing the full version until THAT is fixed.[\Quote]

...then maybe you should use your beloved VLC on Windows or Linux.

@ChrisH

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On "modern" graphics card, compositing scales the video up or down, this needs no CPU usage. That should be the way player should work. On Radeon9200 Cards we only have PIP for good video playback but no scaling possibilities.

However, I do dislike that (IIRC) it will resize the window to be larger than the screen, if the video happens to be larger than the screen. *No* other video player behaves that way (at least without you specifically requesting 100% scaling).

With compositing, no video should resize the window per default to a bigger size than the screen.

If you have a older system, it could happen. But to be fair, you can play videos there with a size bigger than your workbench screen??? (FullHD videos?, also a 1280x720p video should fit into a workbench screeon (expect you have 800x600 in 2017 ;) But also there, i think 720p videos should be impossible to play if you don't own a fast computer like a x1000...)

@noXLar

Hi,

please can you explain when the resize of the window comes on your system?

I tried it and the behavior is here, that emotion don't scales the window down or up. The video is scaled.

Also loading a new video does not scale the window, only if you hit "w" or in menu "adjust window size", then the window scales to the video file size.

Only in "software" mode the window scales to the video size because there is no hardware scaling and it hase to use the video size. With compositing window sizing is enabled.

On which system did you tried the demo? In your signature, you have Radeon HD cards which should use compositing to scale the video.

@K-L
We have a big to-do list which is worked on, step by step.
But as we need other projects for living, the development speed is not fast on every day.

For the website: I have to put some news on it, i know ;) I will try to do my best to find time for it...

@Hans + Chris:

Last week we also did some changes, maybe some of the problems are gone.

Anyway: We also tried some videos with mplayer in comparison with Emotion after the post of Chris. None of our tests where much different. Maybe it is also the way HD videos are played in both players. On mplayer the videos are "slower" and the sound did not matched with the video. In Emotion it seems (depending on the frameskip mode) "jerky" but sound and video stays on the same position. So play a bit with the skip modes.

Beside this: Our computers are not fast enough to play all HD content, and a "slow frame rate" as Chris described not yet a good playing video. So we have to stay in our bounds and try to play videos that our computers can play (... at least as long Hans needs to implement a acceleration for video decoding in RadeonHD drivers ;) )

We are very happy inform you that that the first release of Emotion Mediaplayer is finished and will be released immediately!


Emotion is available here:

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