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Is Ibrowse 100% capatiable with SAM 4.1?
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I'm getting freezes when I use IBrowse. There is no GR just everything freezes on screen and a warm reboot doesn't work, I need to use the reset button on the tower.

The memory seems fine, I've copied to the ram disk till it's full (removed SWAP partition for the tests) upto 10 times and deleted 10 times it all out (WB toolbar doesn't seem to reflect this either, always seems to stay at the last reading (whatever is left when it fails to copy the next file) and avail flush doesn't update it either) again, mixed the information too.

Am I missing something?

The SAM shouldn't just freeze I wouldn't think, any suggestions out there?

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Re: Is Ibrowse 100% capatiable with SAM 4.1?
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@Slayer

there are bugs in IB2.4 i hope IB get updated, IB2.3 was unusable often crashes in some thread downloading images or some thing.

I often used AWebPPC it was faster did not crash as often, AWebPPC has poor Javascript support, it was crippling to use.

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Re: Is Ibrowse 100% capatiable with SAM 4.1?
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@LiveForIt

Ah okay

I'll look at AWebPPC

java doesn't worry me too much I use IBrowse with it disabled, only turn it on when I absolutely must

thanks for the insight

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Re: Is Ibrowse 100% capatiable with SAM 4.1?
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@Slayer

does the mouse freeze as well?

I found that the ppc javascript library had bugs, so I reverted to the 68k one. But it never crashed, it just displayed information on some websites wrongly, like on maxx.co.nz.

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@Slayer

IBrowse sometimes locks up on my A1XE when I first run it, but a warn reset fixes it. Most of the time it runs fine.

Have you tried OWB and/or NetSurf? They are both still beta and have some features missing but they are usable.

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@jahc

Yes the pointer freezes too. And yes, I noticed some java library version from IBrowse is disabled in JIT? for probably similair reasons?

thanks for an alternative

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IBrowse sometimes locks up on my A1XE when I first run it, but a warn reset fixes it. Most of the time it runs fine.


I do find this at times too but I'm still thinking it just shouldn't freeze; especially when you've selected more than 5 files to download simaltaneously

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Have you tried OWB and/or NetSurf? They are both still beta and have some features missing but they are usable.


And yes, used OWB3.4, strangely enough I don't recall that ever crashing as of yet, hats off to our man on that job

Haven't tried Netsurf as of yet, got quite a few things to do and install and trying to read 'beginning in C' by Ron House at work

thanks for the comments

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Re: Is Ibrowse 100% capatiable with SAM 4.1?
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I've solved disabling JIT for IBrowse, now seems stable, no more freezes at all

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@Allanon

I guess ya mean the actual main program? I was going to try out a few things there also since java library is disabled by default. I've added IBrowse too while it's already running... we'll have to see how it goes

while we're on the subject has anyone else added more things to there default lists to enable other programs to be more stable or actually very stable aftwerwards?

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Re: Is Ibrowse 100% capatiable with SAM 4.1?
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@Slayer

Why would you want to use IBrowse?

Netsurf and OWB do a great job.

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@PulsatingQuasar

Same reason I've always used Amigas, if you don't support it it disappears

but the more practical answer is, OWB can't download yet and I do alot of downloading and I haven't had time to look at NetSurf

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@Slayer

I only have the IBrowse javascript disabled in JIT. IBrowse seems quite stable on my SAM440 system (although I am a beta tester and might have some more up to date files?)

However, I can confirm that OWB and Netsurf (AmicygnIX) work fine also.

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I guess ya mean the actual main program?

Yep

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@Slayer

NetSurf can already download so there is no reason for me anymore to use IBrowse.

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@PulsatingQuasar

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Why would you want to use IBrowse?

Netsurf and OWB do a great job.
Oh! a few things, downloading, printing, bookmarks, password management, configurable GUI, gosh! where do I stop.

IBrowse is a full Browser, the other two are effectively webkit engines, albeit very good.

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Re: Is Ibrowse 100% capatiable with SAM 4.1?
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@TrevorDick

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IBrowse seems quite stable on my SAM440 system (although I am a beta tester and might have some more up to date files?)


I will see if actually disabling the main executable has any affect. No harm in trying.

I've noticed that when the image cache in IBrowse becomes about 200megs full (Remember I have say 415megs free after a fresh boot) opening other applications (even say DirOpus and generally over top of the Ibrowse window; haven't tried shrinking IBrowse first) causes the system to respond VERY sluggish like and at times you think it's frozen and will crash. Emptying the cache provides the remedy.

And yes, updated files are usually a good thing, I'll PM my email later

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Re: Is Ibrowse 100% capatiable with SAM 4.1?
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@Slayer

Its also possible that your are just seeing the bug that seems to result in lockupds under OS4.1 with compositing enabled. So you may want to try disabling compositing and see if that fixes your lock up problem with IBowser.

You can find more details at http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/v ... p?topic_id=27934&forum=14

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Re: Is Ibrowse 100% capatiable with SAM 4.1?
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@Slayer

The sluggishness is probably the pager kicking in, presuming you have a swap partition which is unavoidable (of course, none of IBrowse 2.4's memory is swapable). There is an "issue" with OS4.1 in that it will lock up when running low on ram. A smaller image cache may be advisable in order to help avoid the problem. This is not an IBrowse bug (I get the problem with AWeb and OWB, and practically anything else that starts to exhaust available ram).

BTW, note that "avail flush" is a no-op on OS4.1.

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@Dwyloc, Futaura

Thanks very much for the reference material! Sounds like a few little tweaks and I'll be enjoying the good life again. I do like the compositing effect though, but like anything, it takes some time to merge different strains of the same group together without a single hiccup.

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