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WPE WebKit
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Maybe this is a good solution for a new browser for amigans?

https://webkit.org/wpe/

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Re: WPE WebKit
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Everything we may try out in terms of web engines come to question: is it support big-endian. If not, we are out of luck. If yes, it can be possible to follow route Andrea do when first time build first owb versions which was just simple window. For start that can be enough. But problem is official and normal support of big-endianes: if there none, forget about. Morphos devs doing something now with webkit, to make a new browser, but it will be the same out of time because core updating will be pain because of endianes.

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@kas1e
On MorphOS they backported some new features (e.g. flexbox support) to the old WebKit engine.

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@mufa

As kas1e say the only problem still the big endian support that at some point were "broken" in javascript part of webkit, however the day they fix it (if ever happen) the logical solution would be to update Odyssey rather than rewrite another browser

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I am not about webkit only, but about any possible engine. If there is no endian support then no luck for us. And i didn't mean even endian support for just javascript, but for anything else.

Also forget about idea that even if webkit will have someday big-endian support again (probabaly never), to update latest webkit core to current odysses's gui : morphos devs tryied hard, and have no luck with, so they choice to made a new browser on top of recent webkit (yeah, again new browser). But even then, that mean they need to fix endianes issues AGAIN. What mean, even and if they will made that new browser, they will be forced to be in pain all the time when they will want to update core. It will be always pain in the ass.

Basically, if we found any new core of modern web engine which have big-endian support (that not necesary should be webkit), then create a simple window and render to it will be easy. Then on top of that any new gui can be done in a half of year or in year, which in general nothing and no problems.

The main and big problem, there is no opensource engines with big-endian support which any of us can use. And we have no solution there.

One may say about some "ppc-webkit-port" for macos, but then again, its one-time deal of some already old webkit core. Once you will made some sort of good gui for it, it will be obsolete, and it just never ended loop of problem.

The only solution really is to find out any engine with big-endian support, which will be supported and not dropped for at least few years since start.

Or waiting when netsurf will be matured enough.

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I wouldn't bet on Netsurf either. It's a nice lightweight browser, but I can't see it being able to catch up with the modern JavaScript-heavy web. Even mainstream browsers started dropping their own engines in favor of Google's Blink (Opera, Edge). The last major one holding out is Firefox, and even they broke alternative platforms by introducing Rust.

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Yeah, i think we all need to realize that probabaly we need forget about some decent supported browser on amigaos4. Just maybe some engine someday by some luck will support big-endian (maybe some phones or some tablet or something will still have big-endianes some day).

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Re: WPE WebKit
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I'm not a coder but itc busines anyway. I have been situations like this and at least Netsurf should have a Plan-B status.

It is not a mature enough, but speeding up development is just matter of involved people. If there is a Amiga people involved, there woun't be any problems with endianes ever.


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I've been thinking about stopgap solutions, like dedicated programs to use popular internet services. Unfortunately the big companies (Facebook, Google, etc.) are moving the internet towards a more closed direction.
For example Facebook Messenger used to use the XMPP protocol, you could use Jabber clients with it, but now they switched to a proprietary MQTT protocol. There are open source clients (e.g. Pidgin, Adium, bitlbee have facebook plugins), but these are based on reverse engineering, so who knows how long are they going to work.

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Other option will be try to make one port of Chrome kit.

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Re: WPE WebKit
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IBM has a branch of blink that includes updated BE support.

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Are you sure? AFAIR IBM's work was for PPC LE, not BE.

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Still also SpiderWeb for PowerPC, not based to WebKit but XUL/Mozilla

https://github.com/wicknix/SpiderWeb

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