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Re: What USB do you miss on OS4?
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@rwo

Scanner and Palm for me.

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Re: What USB do you miss on OS4?
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@rwo

Do you know if the OS4 USB stack has gotten support for isochronous transfers yet? If not, this will limit the number of devices which can be supported...

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Re: What USB do you miss on OS4?
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@dazA1

A fast recompile of the source from sourceforge showed me that it depended on to linux kernel calls that we dont have on os4, so for a os4 driver I need access to the device or else I will be working in blindness.

RWO

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Re: What USB do you miss on OS4?
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@AmiDog

The problem with isochronous was that Thomas Graff dident had any device the used it so he chouldent implement it.

Also I dont know any device that uses it on the other hand I havent searched for it.

RWO

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Re: What USB do you miss on OS4?
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Here is one for you I have a media center usb HD which has to be partitioned into 32G partitions OS4 only shows the first partition and not the rest I would love to have a usb driver that will show the 4 partitions on the desktop.

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Re: What USB do you miss on OS4?
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1) Scanner
2) PTP
3) WebCam
4) WLan
5) Bluetooth
6) EHCI
7) Palm
8) Dot4

Looking at the list most of them need more than the driver to be usefull

Scanner / WebCam need a API layer so other software can use the like SWAIN, this migth be fun to implement.

Bluetooth need an another stack this is out of my reached.

WLan well this is possible but a big job, looking at the usb wireless usb standard is not gonna be easy

EHCI also need a usb stack update to be usefull also out of my reach

Palm / Dot4 should not be to hard if I can find the usb specs and have access to a device.

RWO

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Re: What USB do you miss on OS4?
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@rwo

Drivers for webcam, specifically the Philips TouCam would be my vote.

These devices can be used very effectively with a telescope for planetary imaging.


Bill.

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Re: What USB do you miss on OS4?
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@dazA1

The source code is not that big, where geeky device in dead.

If you give me a k8055 for free I might consider it.

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Re: What USB do you miss on OS4?
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@rwo

Dot4 - Specification. It's effectively the parallel protocol over USB as far as I can make out. Also a bit of info from HP. Searching for "dot4" or "1284.4" will turn more up.

The Palm one will be a bit trickier, as it isn't an open standard. This is about all I can find.

Chris

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Re: What USB do you miss on OS4?
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@rwo

Well, USB cameras, USB DVB-T receivers, USB microphones, USB speakers, and just about everything else USB which needs a continuous datastream will most likely be using the isochronous transfer mode.

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Re: What USB do you miss on OS4?
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@rwo

Quote:

Scanner / WebCam need a API layer so other software can use the like SWAIN, this migth be fun to implement.


For Scanners there is ScanQuix which FxScan uses. Those who bought FxScan with the USB scanner driver have the open-source part of the USB scanner driver, which is based on SANE. The iousbscanner.device needs to be replaced because it uses iousbscanner.library which tries to open poseidon.library (which we don't have). You could always try asking iospirit for the source-code. Seeing as the Epson USB scanner driver is based on SANE, once iousbscanner.device is replaced, support for a whole range of scanners could be added by downloading and working with the SANE source-code.

For webcams, there is VHI. It needs to be updated because the library spec specifies which 68k registers are used for library calls. Someone here was working on a webcam driver of some sorts for OS4. However, VHI is showing it's age. There is no support for audio, accepting encoded streams driectly (instead of decoding them first before passing them to an app), TV tuners, etc. Either VHI would need to be updated, or a new API chosen (e.g. video4linux2 could be adapted). To be honest, almost no application ever used VHI so replacing it wouldn't cause much in the way of incompatibility.

Hans

EDIT: It's the BetaScan API, not ScanQuix that you should use.


Edited by Hans on 2007/4/13 23:29:50
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Re: What USB do you miss on OS4?
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@aldur

Quote:

Here is one for you I have a media center usb HD which has
to be partitioned into 32G partitions OS4 only shows the
first partition and not the rest I would love to have a usb
driver that will show the 4 partitions on the desktop.

AFAIR massstorage.usbfd only uses the first partition of
media which contains a MBR but all partitions of media which
contain a RDB, so when you only want to use the HD with
OS4 and e.g. some Linux variant which accepts RDB-partitioned
media, you have the option to repartition the drive with
Media Toolbox. Or eventually using mountlists for the second
etc partition also works (e.g. CrossDOSFileSystem,
usbmassstorage.device unit 1, LowCyl 0, "USBD" for the
second partition). Sorry, cant test it myself, no stable USB
here.

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Re: What USB do you miss on OS4?
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@Hans
Quote:

The iousbscanner.device needs to be replaced because it uses iousbscanner.library which tries to open poseidon.library (which we don't have).


Here is the changelog of the iousb.library v2.2

Quote:

Changes for V2.2
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- added detection (!) for the Epson Perfection 1660 and Epson
Perfection 2400 scanners

Changes for V2.1
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- fixed a bug in OS4-support that affected the Poseidon side
(port allocation problem)

Changes for V2.0
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- optimized for speed
- added support for Sirion USB-Stack (OS 4.0 & Thylacine)
- iousbscanner.device 1.1 fixes a timing problem in conjunction with
the EpsonUSB.device-driver and the Epson Perfection 1650-scanners
at high resolutions


Maybe it is "just" buggy?

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Re: What USB do you miss on OS4?
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@ZeroG

Quote:

ZeroG wrote:
@Hans
Quote:

The iousbscanner.device needs to be replaced because it uses iousbscanner.library which tries to open poseidon.library (which we don't have).


Here is the changelog of the iousb.library v2.2

Quote:

Changes for V2.2
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- added detection (!) for the Epson Perfection 1660 and Epson
Perfection 2400 scanners

Changes for V2.1
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- fixed a bug in OS4-support that affected the Poseidon side
(port allocation problem)

Changes for V2.0
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- optimized for speed
- added support for Sirion USB-Stack (OS 4.0 & Thylacine)
- iousbscanner.device 1.1 fixes a timing problem in conjunction with
the EpsonUSB.device-driver and the Epson Perfection 1650-scanners
at high resolutions


Maybe it is "just" buggy?


Ok, I don't think that I ever downloaded this update, I'll have to try it again to see what happens under OS4 final.

Hans

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Re: What USB do you miss on OS4?
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@LiveForIt

Well i have one sitting here doing nothing, i gave it a go on my PC with the example program that came with it. But i really want to use it on my amigaone through Hollywood so if you think its possible then i will send it to you.

Please mail me with your address and i will send it to you.

I really hope this is possible.

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Re: What USB do you miss on OS4?
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@rwo

Isochronous transfers are needed for any streaming Audio I/O thorough USB. This would be quite useful to the music studio types, who could add multitrack audio recording/mixing/effects/playback to their systems, along with the MIDI systems they can play with now.
A quick browse through the electronics section of most music supply houses will show that the number of MIDI interfaces is falling, and the number of USB/Audio I/O boxes is growing (so is firewire).
It would be a great way for an AmigaOS to "graduate" past 8SVX and into more modern/bigger/faster sampling systems.

The days of a tape deck are over, the new studios have gone digital. It would be a nice place to see an Amiga, for sure.

But I might be biased. For me, it's all about the music.

LyleHaze

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Re: What USB do you miss on OS4?
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These would be good

USB touchscreen

Hint Hint Rigo

well I'd like a couple,would be good to use with Hollywood

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Re: What USB do you miss on OS4?
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sane will be cool

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Re: What USB do you miss on OS4?
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@rwo

Additionally I will say, that wlan should be nice, when/if acube get licence to os4. It may be intresting project to fit mb to laptop case. I have one broken fujitsu case waiting ... :)

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Re: What USB do you miss on OS4?
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@rwo

Hi,

Well, I wish that I could copy to my USB memory stick without any
problem.

I have random write error on my memory stick, it's working very
well with my Amiga 4000 and under Windows machine.

Check the result I have after I unarc the latest Aweb archive, note that
I did a quick format just before, by the way is it normal that it
takes 2 hours to do a FORMAT on a memory stick of only 256 Megs?

http://pages.infinit.net/pgx/USB_COPY.JPG

Once this is fixed, scanner/printer driver will be appreciate.

Bye!

Thank you.

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