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Re: Does it exist Virtual Keyboard in OS4.1?
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Ahh.. nice picture, just what i want:) as you said, fixing
The fonts and the other stuff, and perhaps not so big border.
And another feature (if possible) a way to show\hide numberic keyboard (or what it's called)

And, maybe ad show/hide vkeyboard pressing middle button?


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Re: Does it exist Virtual Keyboard in OS4.1?
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Surely you will still be making the active window inactive momentarily, no matter how you are pushed the input events through?

Also this isn't only about KeyShow, but user expectations, and - ultimately - keyboard navigation.


Okay this subject off inot several directions here.

1. The virtual keyboad concept.

If you use an input handler / commodity approach, then window will be a visual guide only and will not directly handle input, because we need to intercept input before intuition ever sees it to be as much like a real keyboard as possible.

You would

a: Intercept (left) mouse down and mouse up events

b: Determine if they are over your window.

c: If so, check position relative to your virtual keyboard elements , determine equivelant raw key event and add it to the input stream then 'swallow' ie delete the mouse event. Activate any qualifier status needed.

d: If not pass mouse button event on as normal.

If correctly setup the virtual keyboard window never becomes active, so the focus issue is irrelavant.



2. General behaviour of windows, ie should the active gadget be remembered between deactivating and reactivateing a window. Possibly it should be an new option, enforcing it on exitsing apps could cause unforseen issues. Testing may find this is rare in which case the default might be to on.

3. Toobar windows an other applications.

If I'm working with app A and click on app Bs Toolbar, unless some care is taken the result may be a bit undetermined, no style guide covers this case.

Probably App B should come active in some what taking the focus from the App A, but that would require an intervention by App B (the one who owns the toolbar) to make it's main window active (or perhaps uniconify it it or what ever is appropriate).




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and perhaps not so big border.


That's quickly 1 more day of work.
Need special code to replace what AmigaOS already provides.

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And another feature (if possible) a way to show\hide numberic keyboard (or what it's called)


That's easy to do.

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And, maybe ad show/hide vkeyboard pressing middle button?


it easy to add a feature where it hides it self if you use the middle mouse button.

But to show it using middle mouse button, is a lot more tricky.

* I can't possibly know that middle mouse click was for virtual keyboard, and can be used by other programs.

* The only way to get a Mouse button event when window is closed is from AmigaInput or Exchange Commodity code.

I know how to do the AmigaInput code. But Exchange Commodity code it don't know that well, I have some Exchange Code in Excalibur, but its only used to Quit Excalibur, it does not intercept any Intuition messages.

I don't know if what Broadblues suggest will work or not.
I guess its only one way to find out and it to try it.

Anyway doing it using AmigaInput has problem, because if you have more then mouse input device connected, touch screen and a mouse, things can get confused.

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Re: Does it exist Virtual Keyboard in OS4.1?
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I see, if one would use an external program for this
Last function then, like Hypercontrol on os4depot,
i use this already for dopus4, double click on desktop to start new Opus4 lister. There's a middle button function there's also.

The one thing i had trouble getting to work, was
Wbstartup.. it didn't work after any type of reboot.

Some of you may know how?


os4depot.net/index.php?function=showfile&file=utility/workbench/hypercontrol.lha


Edited by noXLar on 2014/11/10 11:08:21
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Edited by noXLar on 2014/11/13 8:06:04
Edited by noXLar on 2014/11/13 9:08:13
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it only crashes, tried it a couple of times, and after cold reboot.

have crash log here

but i don't know how to add it in the tread (as a file or?), assuming you want all of the crash log text



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edit : transparent man go out of your thread ;)


Edited by zzd10h on 2014/11/25 23:08:13
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I think I might have used a function that is not yet available to every one else yet. I will try it on my old AmigaONE-XE (OS with out beta file) to see if it crashes or not.

Anyway I have a newer version here.

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Try this one, new tech demo, some features are disabled like numbers and some symbols.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/69645023/vkeyboard.lha

* Input.device handler added.
* Fixed fonts.

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it could be nice to have the possibility to choose different keyboard layout, so you could quickly type text in exotic languages

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This keyboard is designed as standard keyboard the displayed symbols depends on input prefs language settings. Keyboard rawkeys are sent to the input.device and what comes out of input.device depends on again on the language settings in you system.

And a AmiDock Language prefs keyboard docky, might be more useful to you.

I don't know any exotic languages so I can't help with Chinese, Japans or klingon Languages.

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so you could quickly type text in exotic languages


There is nothing quick by using the mouse to point and click, T9 might help, but that's out of scope of this project / bounty.

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thank you, it worked without an issue, and it worked with another public screen also.

but the key's "." "," "-" is not there, i suppose you knew that.

and would be great if the second output window wasen't there at all.

but i'm really happy for what i'm seeing, so please continue when you can:)

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but the key's "." "," "-" is not there, i suppose you knew that. 
and would be great if the second output window wasen't there at all.


Yes that way I can post public demo's with out having problem selling it in Amistore later, its alo a insurance policy to make sure you pay up.

Numbers and symbols will be enabled when the bounty is payed, as your paying more then anyone else I feel your might be entitled to credits and I also like to use you as beta tester, so you get free updates.

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so please continue when you can:)


Right now my main concern is stability, hopefully it does not make the system unstable, or if the virtual keyboard crash, it wont be a good thing.

Any crash log and rapports does help me a lot, to solve problems.

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thank you, it worked without an issue, and it worked with another public screen also.
but i'm really happy for what i'm seeing,


That's good, I expected you might like it.


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