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Re: Updates of FastView, SysMon, FastCompress and NetDock
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@broadblues
You are right, it's to be used if needed.

Me, I use it when one of my program registered as Unique crashs and that I don't want to reboot. I unregister it and I can "play again".
Therefore for me it's useful and help me to don't waste my time to reboot
For your info, soft-reboot on X1000 is not reliable, often I have to cold boot and it's long long long, very long.

Therefore, please, keep the unregistration message possibility.

In SysMon, there are a lot of functions that are dangerous :
-removing a window
-freeze a task
-remove a port
-and certainly others that I forget.

If I had to remove all because there are dangerous for an user...

EDIT : And I have to add that BEFORE all the dangerous operations, SysMon issue a confirmation requestor.

But try it, start SysMon, you will see that a user can't make a mistake.

FORMAT command is still present in the OS for all users, no ?

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@trixie

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I find it rather worrying than an application should be able to unregister another application. This can be fairly dangerous. Imagine that an app continuously accesses a prefs dictionary, an operation that - after unregistering by a third party - will stop working with unpredictable results.

Registered apps rely on staying registered until unregistering themselves from the system. A third-party unregistration is an illegal operation IMHO. If the Application Library supports it, then we have a design problem that should be addressed.


As Andy I think such kind of tools is for experimented users knowing what they are doing. Moreover such kind of utilities always existed on AmigaOS just to circumvent "lacks" of the OS (automatic cleaning of a crashed task, including closing of locked/opened resources such as windows, files, etc.). If you remove unregistering then you should also remove UnlockScreen() because another task may unlock the screen.

Moreover any application should check return code and react accordingly, in the application.library unregistering an already unregistered application should return an error code (which it seems to do according to the autodocs).

SysMon is a very useful tool for programmers (IMHO).

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I'm against to remove such options in SysMon.
Maybe only show such remove option when enabling a "special"/hidden tooltype switch (EXPERT) and if such tooltype exists add those "critical" options.

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@abalaban

+1

I fail to see Sysmon as a dangerous application. It's enough if Sysmon warns the user that unregistering an application while it is still running correctly might be dangerous. The user can decide.

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Re: Updates of FastView, SysMon, FastCompress and NetDock
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As I said, user is warned each time a dangerous thing is attempted.

In following picture, requesters for :
-window closure
-task freeze
-unlock of a file
-MessagePort removal
-RemLibrary() (useful to refresh the Locale.library when building a catalog)
-unassignation
-and finally, Application unregistration

Honestly, SysMon is not dangerous, it's the user who can be dangerous.

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PS : I realize that it lacks some "Info" pictures in the majority of the requester...

Thank you abalaban, Jabirulo, Broadblues and Elwood to have given your opinion

edit : [JOKE] OS4 freezes some times when I use Right Mouse Button on Workbench. Is RMB possibility will be removed to save the system integrity ?

RMB, USB or Workbench (or OS4) have some flaws and therefore all our actions under OS4 are potentially dangerous for the system stability but we live with that !
[/JOKE]


Edited by zzd10h on 2014/10/17 16:27:14
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Re: Updates of FastView, SysMon, FastCompress and NetDock
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I think SysMon is the kind of tools of great help for advanced users. Being able to release locked resources in case of development testing is a must have.
I can't imagine a casual user doing more that just watching displayed values. If he clicks on whatever button and doesn't pay attention to warnings, don't you think he's looking for troubles ?
so, no censorship please.

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aTunes 2.1 on OS4Depot for free...

More informations in the ReadMe

* Added a Settings window accessible from the Contextual menu option "Settings"

All the Tooltypes are removed

* Selected Song or Stream position in the list is now saved

Thanks to Samir 'Samo79' Hawamdeh for the suggestion

* Position/size of child windows are now saved.
Thanks to 'YoungHippie' for the bug report

* Added Genre information in the information bottom frame of the main window

* Added Close buttons to close Filter and PlayList windows

* Added Quit button to main window.

* Added a check at startup to control that NList.mcc is at least at level 20.138

* Fixed all main window buttons at the same width

* [aTunes_Cover_AAmp] Added a Bubble help displaying the song and the artist
when mouse cursor is over the cover picture

* [aTunes_Cover_AAmp] Added the artist name in the window title

* [aTunes_Cover_AAmp] Added a setting to width-fix the size of the Cover_AAmp window

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http://www.os4depot.net/index.php?fun ... ile=audio/misc/atunes.lha



Edited by zzd10h on 2014/10/21 7:36:30
Edited by zzd10h on 2014/10/21 7:37:15
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And now, the killer-app that AOS4 was waiting for...

Hurry up to grab it on OS4Depot before it will be sold for 20€ to AmiStore

BougeSouris on OS4Depot

http://www.os4depot.net/?function=sho ... lity/misc/bougesouris.lha

(BougeSouris means MoveMouse in french)

BougeSouris is a simple program to move the mouse by command and to simulate the left mouse button (single and double click).

It was asked by Tony 'Sinisrus' Canazza for one of his program.


Included in the package :

* Binaries for
AmigaOS 4 (BougeSouris)
AmigaOS 3 (BougeSouris_OS3)
MorphOS (BougeSouris_MOS)

* Sources in the Sources drawer (with AmigaOS 4 CodeBench project file and Makefile)


Usage :
"BougeSouris X/N,Y/N,CLICK/S,DOUBLECLICK/S"

X = X coordinate in pixel
Y = Y coordinate in pixel
CLICK = issue a single click
DOUBLECLICK = issue a double click

BougeSouris 100 200 DOUBLECLICK
BougeSouris X 100 Y 200
BougeSouris X=100 Y=200 CLICK
BougeSouris DOUBLECLICK



14/10/21 : BougeSouris 1.0
Initial release


The move mouse pointer function is based on source find here :
http://www.theflatnet.de/pub/cbm/amig ... /dev_examples/set_mouse.c


Icon picture from
http://www.decoloopio.com/379-355-lar ... ker-bebe-souris-grise.jpg


This program will not be used but I upload it anyway.
Guillaume 'zzd10h' Boesel

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Re: Updates of FastView, SysMon, FastCompress and NetDock
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@zzd10h

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Hurry up to grab it on OS4Depot before it will be sold for 20€ to AmiStore


Haha thank you
Years ago i used a little utility like this (under Windows 98) to simulates a user activity, aka to move the mouse automatically ..
In early 2000 it was usefull to earn some money with the banners, very crazy i know


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@samo79
Ah ah ah, unfortunately, you will not earn money with this one !

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Re: Updates of FastView, SysMon, FastCompress and NetDock
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BougieSouris has been created for my new project ARemote (Remote control for amiga OS)

Guillaume thank you

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And the last update before to take a rest

FastHide 1.1on OS4Depot & AmiUpdate

* Added "Fading effect" option when windows disappear and reappear.
Default On, can be deactivated in the Prefs window

* Added "Fading interval" Slider to specify the speed of the fading effect (in milliseconds).

* Minor bugs fix

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@zzd10h

Thank you for the update and for helping me with my os4depot comments!

I like the new fade feature. It seems the drawers and programs fade sequentially. Is there any way to make them all fade at the same time?
Also, is it possible to close a drawer from the hidden list rather than having to unhide and then close it? This would really speed up closing multiple drawers.




Edited by ddni on 2014/10/24 9:46:54
Edited by ddni on 2014/10/24 9:49:40
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@ddni

1) fading in parrallel, yes, you are right, I have to do that.
It's noted for a next update !

2) To be honest, I don't really see the interest to close drawer from FastHide. You will have to Righ click to select an option "Close drawer", it will not be really faster, IMHO.



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@zzd10h

If you could select all drawers from the list and close them it would be faster. Even a close all drawers button?

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@ddni

OK, I will add a "Close all drawers" button and a "Close drawer" menu option.
It should not be hard to implement.

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@ddni

Ever heard of the "Right Amiga"-Click shortcut? Using it while clicking on the close gadget of a Workbench window will close all of them at once.

@zzd10h

Yet another handy utility from you! Thank you!


Edited by abalaban on 2014/10/25 8:45:05
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@abalaban

Really?! That is very helpful thanks.

@zzd10h

Thanks for this, but don't do it if you think abalans shortcut will do the same thing!

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@abalaban

Merci, Alexandre, it works and it will save me some time ;)

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@zzd10h
I am trying aTunes for the first time just now, in the past
I tought I doesnt need a program like aTunes, because I generally
doesnt listen music with my Amiga, but the possibility to save
a list of radio to listen with AmigaAMP3 captured my attention,
before I missed that feature, and now I am listening a webradio
thanks to aTunes & AmigaAMP, great work many thanks

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