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Re: AmigaDeveloper.com Team Progress Update
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Thank you my friend!

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Re: AmigaDeveloper.com Team Progress Update
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NotificationServer just crashed on me randomly.
Stack trace:
    
native kernel module kernel+0x0001c378
    native kernel module kernel
+0x0001c378
    module NotificationServer at 0x6FA0C754 
(section 5 0x5730)
    
module NotificationServer at 0x6FA0C804 (section 5 0x57E0)
    
module NotificationServer at 0x6FA0F188 (section 5 0x8164)
    
module NotificationServer at 0x6FA113F8 (section 5 0xA3D4)
    
native kernel module newlib.library.kmod+0x000020ac
    native kernel module newlib
.library.kmod+0x00002d5c
    native kernel module newlib
.library.kmod+0x00002ef0
    NotificationServer
:_start()+0x170 (section 1 0x16C)
    
native kernel module dos.library.kmod+0x000255c8
    native kernel module kernel
+0x0003e7b4
    native kernel module kernel
+0x0003e7fc


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Re: AmigaDeveloper.com Team Progress Update
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Whilst you're in NetSurf, I found an interesting system freeze with Multiviewer:

1. Copy any text from a web page in NetSurf.
2. Open ClipView and select the new clipboard text
3. Click "view"

You can also replace 2&3 with "Multiviewer CLIPBOARD"

ClipView and Multiview show the clipped text just fine, so it appears to be a Multiviewer bug rather than an FTXT DataType or NetSurf one.

NetSurf writes UTF8 chunks so I suspect this is causing the problem.

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I have fixed the Checkout text for NetSurf. It seems that <font color=white>Checkout</font> in the header made every further instance of font on the page default to white and not use the CSS font colour. This behaviour doesn't occur under Firefox or Odyssey.

I also added the message for NetSurf users to disable Javascript.

With respect to the MultiViewer problem: it worked fine here and I couldnt replicate it. No freezes on my X5000.

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Thanks!

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With respect to the MultiViewer problem: it worked fine here and I couldnt replicate it. No freezes on my X5000.


Odd. Hmm, it doesn't here either if I copy from amigans.net, but does if I copy from Google. (edit: actually, it seems quite random) (I was trying to save a copy from ClipView to make it easier to reproduce, but it saves as ASCII rather than FTXT)

I managed to get a crashlog over serial:
Dump of context at 0x7FB02000
Trap type
DSI exception
Machine State 
(raw): 0x0002F030
Machine State 
(verbose): [ExtInt on] [User] [FPU on] [IAT on] [DAT on]
Instruction pointer0x016853D0
Crashed process
APPDIR:MultiViewer (0x554CFAA0)
 
0: 0168566C 4E992F80 00000000 00000000 5639C83C 4E9930E8 4E99313C 00000008
 
88002001A 01C2CC94 00000000 01E70000 00000794 4F3BC700 0000040F 4E9933E0
16
00000000 5BBDBE04 4E9933EC 4E9933E0 4EE0117C 4E9944B0 0000040F 5FEBF010
24
4E9930E8 5639C83C 5BE2BB70 01E70000 5639C83C 4E9930E8 00000000 00000000
CR
20844844   XER20000008  CTR0141ABC0  LR: 0168566C
ESR
00000000
DEAR
: 00000008
mcsrr00x00000000
csrr0
0x00000000

Disassembly of crash site
:
 016853
C07C7F1B78   mr                r31,r3
 
016853C47C992378   mr                r25,r4
 
016853C890010064   stw               r0,100(r1)
 016853
CC7CB82B78   mr                r24,r5
>016853D080030008   lwz               r0,8(r3)
 016853
D483CBB24C   lwz               r30,-19892(r11)
 016853
D87F804800   cmpw              cr7,r0,r9
 
016853DC419E0100   beq-              cr7,0x16854DC
 016853E0
813E114E   lwz               r9,4430(r30)
 
016853E47C040378   mr                r4,r0

Dump of all active TLB
's
MaxTLB = 41, NextTLB = 29
   TS  Effective     Physical  Size TID WIMG XWRXWR
 0  1 0x59206000 0x0_12DC4000    4k   0  0x0   0x1B
 1  1 0x52CDD000 0x0_12080000    4k   0  0x0   0x1B
 2  1 0x5FF1C000 0x0_00079000    4k   0  0x0   0x1B
 3  1 0x5FF9D000 0x0_00057000    4k   0  0x0   0x1B
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 5  1 0x5FFA0000 0x0_00052000    4k   0  0x0   0x1B
 6  1 0x5FFA3000 0x0_00055000    4k   0  0x0   0x1B
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 8  1 0x564CE000 0x0_19611000    4k   0  0x0   0x1B
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15  1 0x52CDB000 0x0_11E9B000    4k   0  0x0   0x1B
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25  1 0x5C8F3000 0x0_1FDEB000    4k   0  0x0   0x1B
26  1 0x554CF000 0x0_05460000    4k   0  0x0   0x1B
27  1 0x5BF74000 0x0_1F232000    4k   0  0x0   0x1B
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29  1 0x5FF19000 0x0_1FF9D000    4k   0  0x0   0x1B
30  1 0x5FF4A000 0x0_00178000    4k   0  0x0   0x1B
31  1 0x5FF8F000 0x0_1FFFD000    4k   0  0x0   0x1B
32  1 0x5FD2F000 0x0_1F721000    4k   0  0x0   0x1B
33  1 0x5FE3F000 0x0_1FF2F000    4k   0  0x0   0x1B
34  1 0x5B786000 0x0_03A1F000    4k   0  0x0   0x1B
35  1 0x5FDFD000 0x0_01EA2000    4k   0  0x0   0x1B
36  1 0x5FD7F000 0x0_001AC000    4k   0  0x0   0x1B
37  1 0x5B8C4000 0x0_1F308000    4k   0  0x0   0x1B
38  1 0x57918000 0x0_03BA0000    4k   0  0x0   0x1B
39  1 0x5A1D9000 0x0_00B35000    4k   0  0x0   0x1B
40  1 0x5FF4B000 0x0_00167000    4k   0  0x0   0x1B
41  1 0x7FB02000 0x0_12082000    4k   0  0x0   0x1B
-------------------------------------------------------------------
42  1 0x01E60000 0x0_01E60000   64k   0  0x0   0x1B
43  1 0x01E50000 0x0_01E50000   64k   0  0x0   0x1B
44  1 0x01E40000 0x0_01E40000   64k   0  0x0   0x1B
45  1 0x01E00000 0x0_01E00000  256k   0  0x0   0x1B
46  1 0x01D00000 0x0_01D00000    1M   0  0x0   0x1B
47  1 0x01C00000 0x0_01C00000    1M   0  0x0   0x1B
48  1 0x01B00000 0x0_01B00000    1M   0  0x0   0x2D
49  1 0x01A00000 0x0_01A00000    1M   0  0x0   0x2D
50  1 0x01900000 0x0_01900000    1M   0  0x0   0x2D
51  1 0x01800000 0x0_01800000    1M   0  0x0   0x2D
52  1 0x01700000 0x0_01700000    1M   0  0x0   0x2D
53  1 0x01600000 0x0_01600000    1M   0  0x0   0x2D
54  1 0x01500000 0x0_01500000    1M   0  0x0   0x2D
55  1 0x01400000 0x0_01400000    1M   0  0x0   0x2D
56  1 0x01300000 0x0_01300000    1M   0  0x0   0x0B
57  1 0x01200000 0x0_01200000    1M   0  0x0   0x0B
58  1 0x01100000 0x0_01100000    1M   0  0x0   0x0B
59  1 0x01000000 0x0_01000000    1M   0  0x0   0x0B
60  0 0xE0000000 0x0_E0000000  256M   0  0x5   0x1B
61  1 0xE0000000 0x0_E0000000  256M   0  0x5   0x1B
62  0 0x10000000 0x0_10000000  256M   0  0x0   0x3F
63  0 0x00000000 0x0_00000000  256M   0  0x0   0x3F
Fault caused by load operation

Kernel command line: debuglevel=0 munge

Registers pointing to code:
r0 : native kernel module Kickstart/intuition.library.kmod+0x000215ec
r9 : native kernel module Kickstart/intuition.library.kmod+0x005c8c14
ip : native kernel module Kickstart/intuition.library.kmod+0x00021350
lr : native kernel module Kickstart/intuition.library.kmod+0x000215ec
ctr: native kernel module Kickstart/kernel+0x0001abc0

Stack trace:
(0x4E992F80) native kernel module Kickstart/intuition.library.kmod+0x00021350
(0x4E992FE0) native kernel module Kickstart/intuition.library.kmod+0x000215ec
(0x4E993060) native kernel module Kickstart/intuition.library.kmod+0x000218c8
(0x4E9930E0) native kernel module Kickstart/intuition.library.kmod+0x00009eac
(0x4E993100) module CLASSES:gadgets/button.gadget at 0x6FD857B8 (section 5 @ 0x1794)
(0x4E993200) module CLASSES:gadgets/button.gadget at 0x6FD86544 (section 5 @ 0x2520)
(0x4E9932D0) native kernel module Kickstart/intuition.library.kmod+0x00021448
(0x4E993330) native kernel module Kickstart/intuition.library.kmod+0x000215ec
(0x4E9933B0) native kernel module Kickstart/intuition.library.kmod+0x0000a3f4
(0x4E9933C0) module CLASSES:gadgets/layout.gadget at 0x6FDCBB80 (section 5 @ 0x5B5C)
(0x4E9934E0) module CLASSES:gadgets/layout.gadget at 0x6FDD35A4 (section 5 @ 0xD580)
(0x4E993540) module CLASSES:gadgets/layout.gadget at 0x6FDCF5E8 (section 5 @ 0x95C4)
(0x4E9936E0) native kernel module Kickstart/intuition.library.kmod+0x00021448
(0x4E993740) native kernel module Kickstart/intuition.library.kmod+0x000215ec
(0x4E9937C0) native kernel module Kickstart/intuition.library.kmod+0x0000a3f4
(0x4E9937D0) module CLASSES:gadgets/layout.gadget at 0x6FDCBB80 (section 5 @ 0x5B5C)
(0x4E9938F0) module CLASSES:gadgets/layout.gadget at 0x6FDD35A4 (section 5 @ 0xD580)
(0x4E993950) module CLASSES:gadgets/layout.gadget at 0x6FDCF5E8 (section 5 @ 0x95C4)
(0x4E993AF0) native kernel module Kickstart/intuition.library.kmod+0x00021448
(0x4E993B50) native kernel module Kickstart/intuition.library.kmod+0x000215ec
(0x4E993BD0) native kernel module Kickstart/intuition.library.kmod+0x0000a3f4
(0x4E993BE0) module CLASSES:gadgets/layout.gadget at 0x6FDCBB80 (section 5 @ 0x5B5C)
(0x4E993D00) module CLASSES:gadgets/layout.gadget at 0x6FDD35A4 (section 5 @ 0xD580)
(0x4E993D60) module CLASSES:gadgets/layout.gadget at 0x6FDCF5E8 (section 5 @ 0x95C4)
(0x4E993F00) native kernel module Kickstart/intuition.library.kmod+0x00021448
(0x4E993F60) native kernel module Kickstart/intuition.library.kmod+0x000215ec
(0x4E993FE0) native kernel module Kickstart/intuition.library.kmod+0x0000a3f4
(0x4E993FF0) module CLASSES:gadgets/layout.gadget at 0x6FDCBB80 (section 5 @ 0x5B5C)
(0x4E994110) module CLASSES:gadgets/layout.gadget at 0x6FDD35A4 (section 5 @ 0xD580)
(0x4E994170) module CLASSES:gadgets/layout.gadget at 0x6FDCF5E8 (section 5 @ 0x95C4)
(0x4E994310) native kernel module Kickstart/intuition.library.kmod+0x00021448
(0x4E994370) native kernel module Kickstart/intuition.library.kmod+0x000215ec
(0x4E9943F0) native kernel module Kickstart/intuition.library.kmod+0x000219a0
(0x4E994460) native kernel module Kickstart/intuition.library.kmod+0x0000e8d4
(0x4E9944A0) native kernel module Kickstart/intuition.library.kmod+0x0000eb10
(0x4E994530) native kernel module Kickstart/intuition.library.kmod+0x0007fad8
(0x4E994600) module CLASSES:window.class at 0x6FDDC7D8 (section 5 @ 0x87B4)
(0x4E9947F0) module CLASSES:window.class at 0x6FDDDAE4 (section 5 @ 0x9AC0)
(0x4E994B00) native kernel module Kickstart/intuition.library.kmod+0x00021448
(0x4E994B60) native kernel module Kickstart/intuition.library.kmod+0x000215ec
(0x4E994BE0) native kernel module Kickstart/intuition.library.kmod+0x0000a3f4
(0x4E994BF0) native kernel module Kickstart/intuition.library.kmod+0x0000a034
(0x4E994C60) module APPDIR:MultiViewer at 0x6F44D3A4 (section 5 @ 0x35380)
(0x4E994CB0) module APPDIR:MultiViewer at 0x6F435364 (section 5 @ 0x1D340)
(0x4E994CF0) native kernel module Kickstart/newlib.library.kmod+0x000020ac
(0x4E994D60) native kernel module Kickstart/newlib.library.kmod+0x00002d14
(0x4E994F00) native kernel module Kickstart/newlib.library.kmod+0x00002ef0
(0x4E994F40) APPDIR:MultiViewer:_start()+0x180 (section 1 @ 0x17C)
(0x4E994F90) native kernel module Kickstart/dos.library.kmod+0x000255c8
(0x4E994FC0) native kernel module Kickstart/kernel+0x0003e7b4
(0x4E994FD0) native kernel module Kickstart/kernel+0x0003e7fc

Disassembly of crash site:
 016853C0: 7C7F1B78   mr                r31,r3
 016853C4: 7C992378   mr                r25,r4
 016853C8: 90010064   stw               r0,100(r1)
 016853CC: 7CB82B78   mr                r24,r5
>016853D0: 80030008   lwz               r0,8(r3)
 016853D4: 83CBB24C   lwz               r30,-19892(r11)
 016853D8: 7F804800   cmpw              cr7,r0,r9
 016853DC: 419E0100   beq-              cr7,0x16854DC
 016853E0: 813E114E   lwz               r9,4430(r30)
 016853E4: 7C040378   mr                r4,r0
Stack pointer (0x4E992F80) is inside bounds
Redzone is OK (4)

68k register dump
DATA: 5BF4991E 00000003 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
ADDR: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 4E994A20
Page information:
Page not found


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By the way, you still can go the way as Hyperion do few days ago: uploaded as separate download changelog.guide. Probably, you need to do the same (i mean changelog.guide). Or at least some kind of .txt , where will be noted all changes of every component which do not contain sensetive information which you need to hold (through, i think no one care for those references to code, and that will be no problem to just copy+paste from svn commits).

I see on different forums as ppls like to download update1 for FE, and then download change log and checking this out. Enhancer for sure miss it and should be in imho. ("no time" excuse don't count :) )

What i mean, is that if you already spend so much on Enhancer, to not making changelogs its kind of make bad things at final, while almost everything important done.

For example still no one point us out on what changed or added in AmiPDF. Anyone ? Should we asking many times about as it was with Hyperion few years ago ?:)

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For example still no one point us out on what changed or added in AmiPDF. Anyone ? Should we asking many times about as it was with Hyperion few years ago ?:)


At the bottom of the AmiPDF docs in the Enhancer package I see this:

Documentation
---------------------
AmiPDF Wiki web page:
http://wiki.amiga.org/amipdf

There is nothing about AmiPDF at that page.

However, I can tell you that I am able to open some PDF bank statements that don't work with the OS4.1FE AmiPDF. The old AmiPDF fails because the statementes use some newer fonts. It appears that the Enhancer AmiPDF is doing good font substitution or it includes newer fonts.

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However, I can tell you that I am able to open some PDF bank statements that don't work with the OS4.1FE AmiPDF. The old AmiPDF fails because the statementes use some newer fonts. It appears that the Enhancer AmiPDF is doing good font substitution or it includes newer fonts.


Apart from a rebuild of the XPDF core the changes in that version are largely GUI related. Therefore I would guess it's config thing, rather than any particular fix.

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In addition to now being able to read previously unreadable PDF files, small text in the Enhancer AmiPDF is almost unreadable. The kerning in really small text is horrible. Letters combinations like 'fi' an 'll' are blended together and the text is darker than with OS4 AmiPDF. I don't know if that's a font issue, anti-aliasing issue or Amiga display issue. Zooming to a larger size makes the text readable but the same small text in OS4 AmiPDF is clear. For now I'm keeping both versions. However, what I really want is an Amiga PDF reader that will work with the now common 'fill-in' PDFs.

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In addition to now being able to read previously unreadable PDF files, small text in the Enhancer AmiPDF is almost unreadable.


Really? Please define "small" I just examined the front piece of a PDF doc with copyright text in small text in both the aeon amipdf and the hyperion amipdf and they are pixel for pixel identical.

To the point that I can overlap screen grabs and get a solid black rectangle when subtracking one from the other in SketchBlock.

Can you provide screens shots example PDFS your settings in both cases and other info to enable me to investigate your isue in more detail?

Quote:

The kerning in really small text is horrible.


AmiPDF does no "kerning", the position and spacing of glyphs is defined in the PDF by the application that created it.

If you are usng font substitution though fonts might not match the original spacing properly, so appear oddly spaced.

Quote:

Letters combinations like 'fi' an 'll' are blended together and the text is darker than with OS4 AmiPDF. I don't know if that's a font issue, anti-aliasing issue or Amiga display issue.


That does sound like aliasing or scaling issues.

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Zooming to a larger size makes the text readable but the same small text in OS4 AmiPDF is clear.


The only diference apart from GUI related stuff is a different freetype libray, that might account for the above, but I'm not sure why it differs for me, shouldn't be system dependent.

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For now I'm keeping both versions.


Certainly not a bad idea.

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However, what I really want is an Amiga PDF reader that will work with the now common 'fill-in' PDFs.


What is a 'fill in' PDF?

I have a port of XPDF 3.04 with partial hardware aceleration implemted but it's been on the back burner for a while, that does deal with a larger set of PDFS but it slow at the moment. The version of XPDF in the AEOn release is the same as the Hyperion one.

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Really? Please define "small" I just examined the front piece of a PDF doc with copyright text in small text in both the aeon amipdf and the hyperion amipdf and they are pixel for pixel identical.


Okay slight retraction here, I was testing with my own build of AmiPDF. Which is 1.36 but I notice that 1.37 was the release version, testing with that I see markedly inferior font rendering. I didn't build that version. I think the only chnage relates to menu image size.

Rebuilding against latest svn my build which should be in sync with the released version is *still* at the same quality, pixel for pixel as the Hyperion version.

That is just plain odd, and needs investigation....


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A bit (or not) offtopic, but give plz a try to vpdf port which i post in another thread. It use latest Poppler/XPDF/FreeType cores, as well as simple mui based interface, maybe it will worth of shot.

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What is a 'fill in' PDF?

They are actually called "Interactive PDF Forms" that you can type into if using Adobe Acrobat. For example, my state tax forms are "Interactive PDF Forms" and on a Windows computer I can open the PDF, type the necessary data into the appropriate blocks and priint a completed tax return. I don't need to print the PDF and then enter the data with an ink pen. There are also some 3rd party Windows programs that let you enter data into a PDF.



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A bit (or not) offtopic, but give plz a try to vpdf port which i post in another thread. It use latest Poppler/XPDF/FreeType cores, as well as simple mui based interface, maybe it will worth of shot.


I'll try to get to it today but I'm a little bogged down with installing and testing FE update1, Enhancer update and other stuff.

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I think Multiviewer's text support has bigger problems. It freezes up on moderately large text files too, the likes of which display instantly in MultiEdit and Multiview.

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Re MultiViewer: I have also noticed that in plain text files with tabs (typically: source code that uses deep level tab indentation), in deeper-nested tab-indented lines the first character after the tab gets swallowed. It may look like this:
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And that file doesn't display the same way in MultiView?

Multiviewer uses the data type object for displaying text, unlike images, that have a custom renderer, there's no special handling.


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I think Multiviewer's text support has bigger problems. It freezes up on moderately large text files too, the likes of which display instantly in MultiEdit and Multiview.


Come Chris, your a developer, you know damn well that flimsy expressions like "moderatly large" mean nothing.

What size are the files 100k 500k 1Mb 10 Mb 1000Mb?

Are they ascii iso-#? utf-8 ?

Does the issue happen on every load?

Have you captured a serial log of the crash?

Was wordwrap on or off? (Is it the same in MultiView?)

Do these freezes happen when loading from an open window or only on startup or with tabs?

Do you get freezes with any other non image datatype? (sound, drawing, binary....)

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Sorry it was late and after having to re-run my test three times because the log file was in RAM:, that was all I could manage.

I'll try to reproduce it today and email you the details.

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Sorry for a false alarm - it's clearly a text.datatype bug, and is related to word wrapping. I had wordwrap off in MultiView so I had never spotted the bug. As soon as I turn it on, it demonstrates the same bug as in MultiViewer.

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