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Re: Boot problem SAM460ex
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@sinisrus
I was aware of it but don't think i installed it.

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Re: Boot problem SAM460ex
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@tonyw
Thanks for the help with u-boot menu
Will test this.
I tested the battery: it has nearly 4 V on my multimeter
I was able to save the settings
Boot2 to USD DVD and reboot
Same as before
Boot1 as USD and reboot
Still the same

Came to doubt if I was using the correct DVD': I was not

Using the AOS FE amiga one, Sam 460 DVD
No success but the DVD drive reacted, this was not the case with the aos
4.1 update 2 CD-ROM I used previously

Before yesterday I never touched the OS multi boot settings and still was able, to boot from this DVD if I remember well, whereas boot2 was the only one to point to USB not to DVD but to HD
Am I dreaming this up?
What happens if all three options are set to,SATA , will th Sam boot from DVD?


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Re: Boot problem SAM460ex
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@JosDuchIt

Test verbose option from u-boot

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@sinisrus
How do you use verbose?


I am learning more on u-boot, from th helpcommand, but ican't see the upper half of the commands.
Any URL where I could find the complete list?

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Re: Boot problem SAM460ex
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What happens if all three options are set to,SATA

There is no "SATA" (only) option. It's either "SATA HD" or "SATA DVD".
I wrote an article a long time ago. It was for the AmigaOne XE but you can find more information about Uboot.

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How do you use verbose?

You can select "verbose" somewhere in the menu.

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ican't see the upper half of the commands

You can interrupt the display pressing the CursorUp key (IIRC) so you can see the first lines displayed.

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Re: Boot problem SAM460ex
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@Elwood
Thanks.

I made some progress.
It seems the Seagate HD is dead (properly): the intermittent beep is due to HD trying to get speed. Other info found on the web: could be insufficient voltage, other info ,put it in the freezer to have a last working session.

Right now the HD is removed and I could boot the DVD
I have a recent backup of system & data partitions on my external HD
How can I make the sys partition boott?
http://wiki.amigaos.net/wiki/UserDoc:How_AmigaOS_Works

Is the description above for USB sticks also valiid for the external HD?

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Re: Boot problem SAM460ex
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@JosDuchIt

You are right about the 2 possible cases for the HD. That's why I suggested to use another computer to test it.

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Is the description above for USB sticks also valiid for the external HD?

Yes.

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Re: Boot problem SAM460ex
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@Elwood
I will drop the solution of making my external HD sys partition bootable,
I am not sure about your answer: do you say a USB HD partition can not be made bootable, or the procedure is different from an USB stick?

Right now II moved the Sam440's HD to,the Sam460ex
The HD is recognised,and luckily I have a partition "backup " in which I can install the os4.1FE

Is there some URL showing the install procedure,
I am afraid the procedure would overwrite the Sam440 Sys partition
Should I disable its Automount feature?

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Re: Boot problem SAM460ex
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I am not sure about your answer: do you say a USB HD partition can not be made bootable, or the procedure is different from an USB stick?


the procedure is the same for an USB key or HD.
I never tried on a HD but it should work.

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Is there some URL showing the install procedure, I am afraid the procedure would overwrite the Sam440 Sys partition


It is explained in the PDF present on the OS4 CD.

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Should I disable its Automount feature?
No.

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Re: Boot problem SAM460ex
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Replaced HD by one of my old Sam440
Reformatted a partition , made it bootable, te others to non bootable,
Was able to access all partitions using the OS4.1FE

installed OS4.1 FE on the boot partitition
Set uboot bott devices to
1 3x12 SATA HD
2 3114 SATA HD
3 460 SATA2 HD

Checked
pci
... 0x3512 Mass storage controller ..
....
sata info 0
...
SATA device 1: Model: ST9160821AS ...

Supports 48-bit addressing
..............'... 149.0 GB (312581808 x 512)


On booting the HD is not recognised ,
I get msg
Parthenogenesis (ub21b) version 0.91
No menu.1st or Kicklayout found

Then

AOS4 FLB

Loadsector error when reading from block 0
FLB no SLB found in any '..........'

===============
To disentangle the error messages
I tested
With only one active device:
The loadsector error is generated with the 460 Device
The parthenogenesis message ( No menu.1st or kicklayout with the 3x12 device

All state "hard disk not found"

Help really appreciated,



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Re: Boot problem SAM460ex
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I opened a thread on this on the Hyperion forum
http://forum.hyperion-entertainment.biz/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=3823
Please have your suggestions there

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Re: Boot problem SAM460ex
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What does it say?
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Parthenope (ub21b) version 0.91

You once installed Parthenope on this HD. Just install SLB (with MediaToolbox) and it will work.

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Re: Boot problem SAM460ex
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@Elwood
It said
Parthenogenesis (ub21b) version 0.91
No menu.1st or Kicklayout found


As it was used in my Sam440 ,how come the SLB has gone?

Using mediatoolbox,i found guidance how to install SLB
Howeverit seems (.warning) thati I will lose the data on my other partitions.



Edited by JosDuchIt on 2017/8/15 16:01:03
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