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Re: We so need an updated browser!
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Ah, ok, i thought that these options are already in, seems i was wrong and only the switch exists, but with noop functions.

Thanks for the clarification

Maybe hnl_dk will/can have a look at some point?

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Re: We so need an updated browser!
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I read through all of this thread and the one thing I don't get is this, TenFourFox seems current and works on very low end Mac PPC hardware even. Those developers that maintain it cant be far off from being able to compile it in a way that it will build for Morphos, AmigaOS and AROS I would think if they got help or even a donated X5000 board. We are talking like what, $4000 USD to get a couple of the most active devs a machine? Am I missing something here?

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Re: We so need an updated browser!
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@AcillClassics

Would they want to do so ? What about our developpers taking the source and try to compile TenFourFox ?

Those working on TenFourFox know PowerPC Mac rellay well (and also how to develop on Mac OS PowerPC), do you think they would understand and work on AmigaOS 4.1 for example ?

Sources are available, it's up to us to work on them but I think it's a huge work and I highly doubt anyone will take the challenge to port it (unless a bounty could motivate some).

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Re: We so need an updated browser!
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Pardon my more lengthy posts; I don't usually have the luxury of time to check the board/respond often. So when I do, I brain dump....

My opinion is that Firefox and its derivatives are not going to die out in any foreseeable future. Its user base is massive. Even if the rendering engine gets swapped out for, say, Webkit, the rest of the Firefox architecture and, more importantly, its entire ecosystem is just too well developed, and the end-product is just too good, and its install base is so large, that it's a very compelling/solid foundation to rest on.

With that in mind, the more I dig into things, the more compelling the case I see for a port of TenFourFox (with whatever upstream Firefox ESR they're using at a given time) for big-endian OS4/MorphOS; and, similarly, a port of that same upstream Firefox ESR version for little-endian AROS x86 / AROS on ARM.

I mention both the big- and little-endian ports of Firefox/TenFourFox because it would seem to me that the porting effort to both big-endian and little-endian Ami OS's would share a bunch in common. I stand to be very much corrected on that.

That is, if done correctly, I think we could first coordinate little-endian ports of any Firefox ESR release to AROS x86/AROS on ARM (as I imagine that's a bunch less less effort than the big-endian stuff); and then use the up-to-date knowledge from the little-endian port to help with the same-version TenFourFox port to big-endian Ami platforms.

As I think you can see, I love the idea of collaborating with the TenFourFox peeps; though I pose the question -- is a hardware Ami board/PC strictly necessary? I know that I, when I don my developer hat, greatly prefer emulation for test environments than physical hardware. I imagine other devs share that sentiment.

Additionally, I think the $ used for hardware would more beneficially go to a bounty.

On the topic of collaboration with TenFourFox's devs, I think we could also see some developer uptake if we think of things in reverse -- what if some of us could help with the upstream TenFourFox ports/supports for Mac. Then also potentially recruit the same help porting to big-endian Ami platforms?

Lastly, unless someone informs me differently, I think all of these issues with browser ports, whether Webkit-based/Firefox/TenFourFox/etc., still need someone to port at least a C++11 Standard Library (whether GNU's or other). Maybe even a C++14 Standard Library.

I pose all these thoughts/questions because I'm still firming up the picture in my skull as to how much I'd like/be able to contribute to the effort; either myself and/or donating some of my developers' time from one of my tech companies.

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Re: We so need an updated browser!
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though I pose the question -- is a hardware Ami board/PC strictly necessary? I know that I, when I don my developer hat, greatly prefer emulation for test environments than physical hardware. I imagine other devs share that sentiment.

You should be able to test using WinUAE. Personally, I prefer using real hardware.

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Lastly, unless someone informs me differently, I think all of these issues with browser ports, whether Webkit-based/Firefox/TenFourFox/etc., still need someone to port at least a C++11 Standard Library (whether GNU's or other). Maybe even a C++14 Standard Library.

Yes, and we need that for other stuff too. I'd love to be able to use C++11's multi-threading instead of having to work around its absence.

If you plan to do any work on the stdlibs, then please contact the adtools maintainers first. You don't want to duplicate any existing efforts. Plus, some people have already thought about how some parts should be implemented.

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Re: We so need an updated browser!
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I guess what I am asking then is what is the hold up? The endian issues would be solved in those ports right? Why are they not pulling out the needed code to fix things?

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Re: We so need an updated browser!
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I guess what I am asking then is what is the hold up? The endian issues would be solved in those ports right? Why are they not pulling out the needed code to fix things?


Who is the "they" that you are referring to?

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