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xeron [image]

Re: New Amiga Web Browser in Development - Netsurf.

#21

Not too shy to talk

From:
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Posts: 393

Posted on: 2008/8/12 5:28:32

@DBAlex

I would just steal IBrowse's default font sizes

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TiredOfLife [image]

Re: New Amiga Web Browser in Development - Netsurf.

#22

Not too shy to talk

Posts: 465

Posted on: 2008/8/12 13:11:12

I read on Amigaworld that Sputnik should also be available soon for oS4.

Netsurf, OWB, Sputnik and maybe IBrowse3 in the near future.

Looking good at long last.

http://amigaworld.net/modules/news/article.php?storyid=4467

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VooDoo [image]

Re: New Amiga Web Browser in Development - Netsurf.

#23

Just popping in

Posts: 229

Posted on: 2008/8/12 14:17:03

@TiredOfLife

Yeah very good news these days..after relasing good browser whe need Open Office on OS4..after this OS4 will be great OS whit great apps ;)

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Snuffy [image]

Re: New Amiga Web Browser in Development - Netsurf.

#24

Quite a regular

From:
Michigan

Posts: 950

Posted on: 2008/8/12 18:14:47

Hi @Chris

That's up to you, but I assure you it exists and will be free. I'll probably release a preview version once the major problems are solved (there is one major issue and a few more minor ones I'd like to sort out first)

Chris

I've donated to you're previous projects, but the browser project really makes me furious. Money was sent to Amizilla and Sputnik -- for what ? I wish I could get a refund and send you the money!
---

Simon
Personally, I applaud Chris for spending his time to benefit the Amiga community, well done to him!
I do too, but there's reason to shame me. Thanks for nothing...

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Chris [image]

Re: New Amiga Web Browser in Development - Netsurf.

#25

Site Builder

From:
England

Posts: 1354

Posted on: 2008/8/12 19:16:43

@Snuffy

Quote:

Snuffy wrote:
I've donated to you're previous projects

I know you have, and thank you again for those.

Quote:

the browser project really makes me furious. Money was sent to Amizilla and Sputnik -- for what ? I wish I could get a refund and send you the money!

Unfortunately that's what happens when donating to projects that have barely had any work done on them. With dodgy pre-orders and AI scams, you'd think the Amiga community would have learnt by now

Chris

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Raziel [image]

Re: New Amiga Web Browser in Development - Netsurf.

#26

Amigans Defender

From:
The Pillars / Nosgoth

Posts: 1661

Posted on: 2008/8/12 19:40:04

@Chris

Is there an alpha/beta version we could download and try?

Maybe we could send bug reports or flaws (which may always
occur on different systems)?

Also, i'm very interested in testing another big project
working with shared objects, as i am still in culprit with
OWB :-/

Thank you very much for this effort, Chris, i love you
proggies and looking forward to that browser

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Chris [image]

Re: New Amiga Web Browser in Development - Netsurf.

#27

Site Builder

From:
England

Posts: 1354

Posted on: 2008/8/12 20:31:59

@Raziel

Not yet, I have enough bugs and things on my list already without being bombarded with reports and feature requests. I'd like to fix some of that, and improve the graphical rendering, and then I'll release a preview version.

Oh, and it doesn't use shared objects - I have Joerg's sobjs compatible version of gcc, but if I actually attempt to link with shared objects I get lots of complaints. I think the newlib startup code really doesn't like them (they work fine if I compile without startup code). Needs a new SDK that one.

Chris

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Raziel [image]

Re: New Amiga Web Browser in Development - Netsurf.

#28

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From:
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Posts: 1661

Posted on: 2008/8/13 7:33:09

@Chris

Did you get in touch with the NetSurf devs for inclusion of
(needed?) OS4 specific source code changes, so that eventually
it will be possible for everyone with an SDK (and the knowledge)
to build a copy of NetSurf for(on) OS4 themselves?

What are the bugs left? (Do you have a TO-DO list up somewhere?

Sorry for the impatience, but i find this project very intruiging.

Thank you

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Troels [image]

Re: New Amiga Web Browser in Development - Netsurf.

#29

Not too shy to talk

Posts: 364

Posted on: 2008/8/13 13:36:51

@Chris

"Unfortunately that's what happens when donating to projects that have barely had any work done on them. With dodgy pre-orders and AI scams, you'd think the Amiga community would have learnt by now
Chris"
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Money from the Sputnik bounty sits safe with me and if Marcin don't deliver people will get a refund (minus paypal fees). To get sputnik ported was the best shot at the time and i didn't see anyone object to it back when the bounty was started.
Comparing it to AI's scams I find rather insulting.

Good luck with netsurf looking forward to see a stable version with javascript, etc. Looks promising.

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Mikey_C [image]

Re: New Amiga Web Browser in Development - Netsurf.

#30

Amigans Defender

Posts: 1620

Posted on: 2008/8/13 13:43:26

@Troels

Calm down, no one is saying sputnik is a scam. It was meant at other scams. can anyone say coupons?

Anyhow, you've done a stirling job. good luck with it all

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Chris [image]

Re: New Amiga Web Browser in Development - Netsurf.

#31

Site Builder

From:
England

Posts: 1354

Posted on: 2008/8/13 15:47:41

@Troels

Sorry Troels, my apologies - it wasn't meant to be taken like that. The Amizilla bounty is set up the same way I believe.

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Chris [image]

Re: New Amiga Web Browser in Development - Netsurf.

#32

Site Builder

From:
England

Posts: 1354

Posted on: 2008/8/13 15:52:55

@Raziel

Already done (I wouldn't have got this far without their help)

Important to-dos:
1. Fix the graphical rendering which makes aw.net unreadable
2. Fix the crashing in the forums here and at aw.net when logged in.

But I'd also like to:
3. Make the rendering more complete (some drawing functions aren't implemented at all, others are very basic)
4. Implement downloads
5. Implement bookmarks

There are lots of other things to be done, but I'd like to do at least 1, 2 and 4 before any sort of release. There will be masses of complaints otherwise (and I can think of some other things that will be complained about that are beyond my control)

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Antique [image]

Re: New Amiga Web Browser in Development - Netsurf.

#33

Just can't stay away

From:
Norway

Posts: 1281

Posted on: 2008/8/13 16:54:38

@Chris

Impressive. Looking forward to test this someday

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angelheart [image]

Re: New Amiga Web Browser in Development - Netsurf + (Screenshots)

#34

Just popping in

Posts: 90

Posted on: 2008/8/14 18:25:00

@Mikey_C

Very nice. how much memory does Netsurf use ?

Is Netsurf modular ?

How can one implement html/CSS datatype ?

Would the datatype system need upgrading to support HTML, CSS, Javascript, IRC etc ?

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Raziel [image]

Re: New Amiga Web Browser in Development - Netsurf + (Screenshots)

#35

Amigans Defender

From:
The Pillars / Nosgoth

Posts: 1661

Posted on: 2008/8/15 15:39:35

@Chris

Awesome...

I joined their ml's just to keep up-to date

Looking forward to this, thanks for another great effort/soft, Chris

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Chris [image]

Re: New Amiga Web Browser in Development - Netsurf + (Screenshots)

#36

Site Builder

From:
England

Posts: 1354

Posted on: 2008/8/15 19:20:42

Quote:

angelheart wrote:
Very nice. how much memory does Netsurf use ?

Launching and looking at the default home page = 16MB
Browsing further to the BBC News website = 25MB

Very unscientific testing, but gives an idea.

Quote:

angelheart wrote:
Is Netsurf modular ?

In what way? It appears to have been written to be modular and you can add extra image decoders and things easily.. I think.

Quote:

angelheart wrote:
How can one implement html/CSS datatype ?

Take the back end, whack some document datatypes code in place of all my GUI stuff. Good luck with that.

Quote:

angelheart wrote:
Would the datatype system need upgrading to support HTML, CSS, Javascript, IRC etc ?

Nope. (well maybe for Javascript and IRC, but those aren't relevant here)

Quote:

Raziel wrote:
I joined their ml's just to keep up-to date

You're probably more up-to-date than me! There's at least one I'm not on which would be useful.

Chris

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Raziel [image]

Re: New Amiga Web Browser in Development - Netsurf + (Screenshots)

#37

Amigans Defender

From:
The Pillars / Nosgoth

Posts: 1661

Posted on: 2008/8/15 19:35:50

@Chris

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:
Raziel wrote:
I joined their ml's just to keep up-to date

You're probably more up-to-date than me! There's at least one I'm not on which would be useful.

Any why don't you jojn? I'm on -users and -dev btw

Even cooler is that they got GSoC students to work on projects

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Chris [image]

Re: New Amiga Web Browser in Development - Netsurf + (Screenshots)

#38

Site Builder

From:
England

Posts: 1354

Posted on: 2008/8/15 20:27:39

@Raziel

Not got round to it/rather not deal with all the traffic. It's the SVN commits one I need to be on.

Maybe later.

edit: as for GSoC, see http://www.drobe.co.uk/riscos/artifact2290.html

Edited by Chris on 2008/8/17 16:28:06

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spotUP [image]

Re: New Amiga Web Browser in Development - Netsurf + (Screenshots)

#39

Quite a regular